Thread: No lpg bottles on choppers

Its apparently a civil aviation regulation, but they can carry them on a flight without passengers so if you plan your backloading you can get then into huts. (Fly a gas bottle in on the way to take a party out) so then there's a full gas bottle of the next party.

Us passengers are obviously more valued than helicopters pilots.

Is it as risky as driving a car? Geeze where do these rules come from?

Cripes they might ban ammo on choppers too, that would make it hard to hunt, we would have to end up being bow hunters. Can't really see the difference in 4x gas canisters and a bottle both if they went off could cause a bit of damage.

been the norm for years if packing for SAR etc you put cookers in seperate bag and TELL flight crew/pilot whats in them......that way if the smell of gas is detected mid flight you dont loose your whole pack,when they start chucking stuff out the door.

Originally Posted by Mooseman

Cripes they might ban ammo on choppers too, that would make it hard to hunt, we would have to end up being bow hunters. Can't really see the difference in 4x gas canisters and a bottle both if they went off could cause a bit of damage.

Somehow I think 9kg of lpg has the potential to do more damage than 1kg (4x250g) of butane/propane...

Originally Posted by Cigar

Somehow I think 9kg of lpg has the potential to do more damage than 1kg (4x250g) of butane/propane...

I agree that 9kg of LPG would do more damage but the bottle is made better, has a pressure relief valve, and is tested every 5 years. Much more likely to have a leak from the disposable cans.

wonder how pilots get on carting speer avgas around in jerry cans now then.

Originally Posted by Boaraxa

wonder how pilots get on carting speer avgas around in jerry cans now then.

Don’t mention it to the CAA feds

CAA would have a shit fit if they saw what goes on in Canada! Ive seen a Beaver fly in to the lodge with about 20x9kg in the cabin with a whole heap of other stuff, and then the pilot proceeded to pull another 5 or 6 outa the floats. Seen hunters sitting across 2 of the 100kg bottles wedged in between gear on the floor. Seen a 9kg wedged sideways against a window, on top of all the gear in the back of a Cub.

Is this just for choppers or fixed wing to?

Originally Posted by ghosts

Is this just for choppers or fixed wing to?

It will be choppers and fixed wing alike. Cunts Against Aviation tend to band shit like this completely across the board whenever it happens.

This is nothing new, always have been strict regulations around carriage of dangerous goods on aircraft. Would appear it is now being enforced.

CAA doesn’t determine the dangerous goods regulations, IATA does. Individual aircraft operators will state in their company exposition how they are going to comply with these regulations (a lot of smaller operators say they won’t carry dangerous goods), and the CAA ensure they comply with their exposition.

Even the small gas canisters will be classified as dangerous goods, unless there is an exemption, and there won’t be for a compressed flammable gas. They certainly are banned from a commercial airliner, and I would be very surprised if they were permitted on anything smaller.

I had a quick look in the regulations and it would appear that the smaller gas canisters have an exemption for an aircraft under 5700kg flying under Visual Flight Rules (most helicopters), but LPG is forbidden on an aircraft that carries passengers.

It appears it may be legal for LPG to be carried in a sling load under the helicopter.

1kg of had canisters
5l of white sprits
5kg ammo
That's about it now

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