Thread: Northland deer (again)

Just because I'm bored at work. This topic comes up every couple of years in the local media. $5.9 million to be spent. Opinions?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...EV4AIOTGOVFBY/

ideologue vandals gonna ideologue vandal. (and siphon off vast amounts of taxpayers money into their own pockets) - its what these people do.

What I want to know is who told them? Sika are well known to be in Russell state forest, however I read in the herald that DoC were going to borrow fancy night vision from the USA to get them all. Mustn't have panned out. I thought there weren't many reds up there anyway.

"DoC’s Northern North Island director Sue Reed-Thomas said although Northland’s population of wild deer was small and scattered, immediate action was important as the animals have the potential to breed rapidly when food is abundant"

What a load of utter BS! Deer cant breed any more "rapidly" than the once per year. If that was possible the deer industry would be all over it improve their annual fawning rates, to increase production.

the worst part about it all is that the Regional Council are heavily involved - ooh well they likely end up with a very scattered population of very smart deer

Originally Posted by Husky1600#2

"DoC’s Northern North Island director Sue Reed-Thomas said although Northland’s population of wild deer was small and scattered, immediate action was important as the animals have the potential to breed rapidly when food is abundant"

What a load of utter BS! Deer cant breed any more "rapidly" than the once per year. If that was possible the deer industry would be all over it improve their annual fawning rates, to increase production.

Deer breed more rapidly under good conditions than they do under bad conditions.
So that part is correct.

"Mighty impressive northland sika stag in photo" just for some more sarcasm.

Originally Posted by MB

Just because I'm bored at work. This topic comes up every couple of years in the local media. $5.9 million to be spent. Opinions?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-...EV4AIOTGOVFBY/

They have spent approx $6 million and intend at least another $1.5m and yet the DoC area manager Reed can only postulate that the sika herd albeit small may cost Northland a lot. Note the complete absence of any facts. Also note the hysterical timing of the media (TV) propaganda about tbis currently and coinciding with the twig and tweet attack on the fiordland wapiti herd. Rbe goats and possums in northland pose a more significant problem, including TB. Northland is fraught with lack of funding for critical infrastructure eg sewage and water and the .illions spent on a very minimal deer population point to an unrealistc allocatiln of public funds. Some conversation with Shane about regional devopement funds usage .ight be appropriate IMO. NEXT in line will be the poaka, while goats are not eradicated.

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

What I want to know is who told them? Sika are well known to be in Russell state forest, however I read in the herald that DoC were going to borrow fancy night vision from the USA to get them all. Mustn't have panned out. I thought there weren't many reds up there anyway.

The sika cull is being undertaken by a well known pest contractor who has the most modern high tech gear and a helicopter.

Of all of the threats we face to our sport, keeping deer out of northland is probably the hardest one to argue against. Emotional responses wont cut it. And I see that NZDA are keeping out of the argument - good job.

Originally Posted by Tahr

The sika cull is being undertaken by a well known pest contractor who has the most modern high tech gear and a helicopter.

Of all of the threats we face to our sport, keeping deer out of northland is probably the hardest one to argue against. Emotional responses wont cut it. And I see that NZDA are keeping out of the argument - good job.

I wasn't saying that deer in northland are a good thing or that they shouldn't be culled. I should have been more specific, I was under the impression that the people who knew which bits of private land had a red deer population on them were not publicizing it for obvious reasons. It sure is a long drive to taupo for northlanders that's for sure

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

I wasn't saying that deer in northland are a good thing or that they shouldn't be culled. I should have been more specific, I was under the impression that the people who knew which bits of private land had a red deer population on them were not publicizing it for obvious reasons. It sure is a long drive to taupo for northlanders that's for sure

All good. I was only responding to the thermal bit in your post. The rest was as just a general observation.

One would have thought employment and roading would be better value for the money. Bureaucrats just love spending tax and rates money.

https://www.nrc.govt.nz/media/uhudli...an20172027.pdf

Pages 67 & 68

Originally Posted by Woody

They have spent approx $6 million and intend at least another $1.5m and yet the DoC area manager Reed can only postulate that the sika herd albeit small may cost Northland a lot. Note the complete absence of any facts. Also note the hysterical timing of the media (TV) propaganda about tbis currently and coinciding with the twig and tweet attack on the fiordland wapiti herd. Rbe goats and possums in northland pose a more significant problem, including TB. Northland is fraught with lack of funding for critical infrastructure eg sewage and water and the .illions spent on a very minimal deer population point to an unrealistc allocatiln of public funds. Some conversation with Shane about regional devopement funds usage .ight be appropriate IMO. NEXT in line will be the poaka, while goats are not eradicated.

Good luck to the person charged with telling Northland locals they are going to eradicate pigs from Northland.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Good luck to the person charged with telling Northland locals they are going to eradicate pigs from Northland.

I wouldn't say good luck, I'd say "good job, take that you idiot"