Thread: NZDA

I've seen this come up a few times about some branches of the NZDA
About how hard it is to join.
Bit of a shame really when you stand on the outside looking in.
Dose anybody have a valid reason on why it is this way?
From what has happened on the Thar front it would seem that it is better that we are all together and have a united voice.
Hence making it easier to join these NZDA branches that are hard to join at present.
Ok so we don't all going hunting all of the time but we are still all hunters at hart so maybe these branches should take a look at this and change it to conform with what is going on at the present time.
What may have worked ten twenty thirty our forty years ago is not working now.

Is there a AGM of all branches where this can be brought forward in the minutes.
I can see that more members can bring with it more headaches but every cloud has a silver lining. New members bring fresh ideas and learn new life skills from the older members.

From what I have seen here more are put off from joining than join because of some of these branches status quo.

I have had nothing but good times when going on trips with the Thames Valley branche to Stewart island in the 90's.

I'd try to join on my return but only if it wasn't a hassle.
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Its easy fill out a little form and pay your subs preddy sure you can even do it online these days

I have been a member for years and have only been to a couple of meetings

I was a member for years but the cost of subs each year with young family ment I had to choose between NZDA membership and duckshooting licence.

I belong as an oldie to Taupo, get a key to the range, means I can use it when down there. Tried Bop a couple of times and have felt like a spare prick at a wedding each time, so never returned.

Originally Posted by Maca49

I belong as an oldie to Taupo, get a key to the range, means I can use it when down there. Tried Bop a couple of times and have felt like a spare prick at a wedding each time, so never returned.

I never realised that I had that affect on you Maca - but I always enjoy your company
it seems they are very proactive and are trying to engage with their members - often organizing trips for members
Looks like they have an interesting meeting on Tuesday - come over and I will buy you a beer

Originally Posted by time out

I never realised that I had that affect on you Maca - but I always enjoy your company
it seems they are very proactive and are trying to engage with their members - often organizing trips for members
Looks like they have an interesting meeting on Tuesday - come over and I will buy you a beer

Yeah I joined BOP nzda this year. I havnt made it along to the club nights yet as it conflicts with work, but range days ect have all been awesome and everyone is very welcoming.

Also the facility and range are bloody fantastic. So cool being able to shoot out for a shot whenever it tickles my fancy or my schedule allows.

Will get along for a party hunt at some point in the near future too

Originally Posted by Maca49

I belong as an oldie to Taupo, get a key to the range, means I can use it when down there. Tried Bop a couple of times and have felt like a spare prick at a wedding each time, so never returned.

yep thats how i found it and a few other people i know

Originally Posted by Maca49

I belong as an oldie to Taupo, get a key to the range, means I can use it when down there. Tried Bop a couple of times and have felt like a spare prick at a wedding each time, so never returned.

You might be right Maca - I had the same feeling last night - an hour or more of listening to Crimpy blathering on about African safaris and I was bored shitless and fell asleep - but he convinced me that I didn’t need to go to Botswana to shoot a Zebra and have to eat the balls off the first animal I killed
Must have been eighty turned out and not one person spoke to me - but I sat down and spoke with one who lived near where I used to shoot goats out from Otarahanga 50 years ago - a small world

Originally Posted by time out

Must have been eighty turned out and not one person spoke to me - but I sat down and spoke with one who lived near where I used to shoot goats out from Otarahanga 50 years ago - a small world

But it sounds like you got a 100% strike rate on the people YOU spoke to

Yip that’s right for that lot iam still a member but only for the range

Canterbury deerstalkers doesn't want new members.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Canterbury deerstalkers doesn't want new members.

Why's that mate? A few mates and I were talking tonight about whether or not it would be worth joining up.

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Originally Posted by lumberjack

Why's that mate? A few mates and I were talking tonight about whether or not it would be worth joining up.

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They charge extra for new members to join, presumably as a discouragement to joining at all.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

They charge extra for new members to join, presumably as a discouragement to joining at all.

@257weatherby ; Presumably would be very wrong. To say it is to discourage membership s wrong. It is to discourage larger numbers of "maybe" members clogging up a system when they wont join. Not eberyone who starts the sign up process finishes it. In some cases we found after the first part year, we were getting a lot of new members not renewing when the got the first full year membership bill.

As a committee member to another club, we now also have to charge a joining fee for new members. We also only charge for the part year until renewal time on a monthly basis (IE if 6 months to renewal we only charged 6months membership). We have found over the last few years that we have a lot of people starting the membership process, each one with associated costs to the club as each member goes through the process. Add to this that our membership process is managed by volunteers, there is a lot of time wasted when these members are not serious about joining up. What we found is we were getting a lot of people starting the process, then backing out or sitting there not finishing the process , all the while the clubs was paying the costs of setting them up. We found by charging a membership joining fee, that the ones who were serious about becoming members paid and joined, where the ones who clearly were not really wanting to be members stopped clogging the system up .

Some people also find that membership in our club is not really what they want. We also allow non members to use it as guests or on open nights for a visitor fee which if you want access once or twice a year or occasionally, then it can be a better idea to find another member to take you or to go on our public nights, though these can get very busy,.

There are a lot of places that charge a joining fee, gyms, Clubs (RSA's, Workingmans) Perhaps it is better to consider it a loyalty discount that your second year onwards is less than the first......

Originally Posted by timattalon

@257weatherby ; Presumably would be very wrong. To say it is to discourage membership s wrong. It is to discourage larger numbers of "maybe" members clogging up a system when they wont join. Not eberyone who starts the sign up process finishes it. In some cases we found after the first part year, we were getting a lot of new members not renewing when the got the first full year membership bill.

As a committee member to another club, we now also have to charge a joining fee for new members. We also only charge for the part year until renewal time on a monthly basis (IE if 6 months to renewal we only charged 6months membership). We have found over the last few years that we have a lot of people starting the membership process, each one with associated costs to the club as each member goes through the process. Add to this that our membership process is managed by volunteers, there is a lot of time wasted when these members are not serious about joining up. What we found is we were getting a lot of people starting the process, then backing out or sitting there not finishing the process , all the while the clubs was paying the costs of setting them up. We found by charging a membership joining fee, that the ones who were serious about becoming members paid and joined, where the ones who clearly were not really wanting to be members stopped clogging the system up .

Some people also find that membership in our club is not really what they want. We also allow non members to use it as guests or on open nights for a visitor fee which if you want access once or twice a year or occasionally, then it can be a better idea to find another member to take you or to go on our public nights, though these can get very busy,.

There are a lot of places that charge a joining fee, gyms, Clubs (RSA's, Workingmans) Perhaps it is better to consider it a loyalty discount that your second year onwards is less than the first......

I have no problem with paying the standard yearly sub straight off the bat. I have a big problem with being charged more than that to join in the first place. Charge the same as existing and I would join. Charge more, and I will not.

It is not even about the extra cost here, it is the goddam principle.