Thread: the OFF TOPIC to Stags shot 21 (discussion of wild animal management)

Originally Posted by Maxx

Some really good posts in the last few pages (the only ones I've read) .....and a number of represent quite a bit of effort, too.

FWIW, I'd add that not only does DoC have an institutional antipathy towards introduced animals, they have one towards hunters too. Of course there are exceptions, but broadly speaking I think that's correct. So that's a further obstacle to meaningful engagement.

I had hoped that Kiri Allan might have taken a broader view than the previous Minister, but now she's on sick leave (and best wishes to her) I don't hold the same hopes with Ayesha Verrall.......

I agree and think that was a significant loss to hunters chances of meaningful change. The institutional (hate that word) distrust between DOC upper management and hunters is a serious issue. However its more of an issue than it needs to be due to today's tendency to just adopt the I disagree with you on something now I refuse to talk to you politely and I now hate everything you do. Thing is hunters and doc are not that dissimilar in terms of values. We just differ on a few key issues. If we could get over our selves a bit and the other side too atleast we could progress on the bits we agree on. It's seen in thing like gun laws where most LFOs agree that penalties for violent gun crime should be more but everytime anything is tried to be implemented they try slip in a heap of other bullshit laws so we no longer support them but if we pushed forward the things we agreed on some useful change could happen.