https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0OLlDfl_zw*
plurry muppets
this is a national discrace
well past time for this sort of behaviour to end for once and for all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0OLlDfl_zw*
plurry muppets
this is a national discrace
well past time for this sort of behaviour to end for once and for all.
Certainly brings into question the definition of fair chase. Seems like a boring way to do it to me.
They put up some good videos of their hunting in America, pity this is our international image of how we hunt.
Bull shit allright
Blood boiling..... Wasnt even a decent cham either. Bunch of dickheads.
Who was it? Links broken
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At least they got roasted in the comments on their vid.
Disgusted... unfollowing these guys on social media...
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Originally Posted by 199p
still working fine n dandy.... buch of foreign muppets out with ALPINE ....
they all dressed up in camo gear...should really have been wearing winnie the pooh onezies and fluffy slippers for all the time they spent with feet on the ground.
Cheers wont load on my phone just need more videos like the duleys etc put on youtube try and change whats seen as normal
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The guy doing the shooting didn't look very confident with that riffle, accident waiting to happen!
This is what happens when ethics go out the window. I'm sure it happens a lot more than we ever hear about,
I've never even seen a Cham in the wild. if this was the only option for me to shoot one then I never will.
Some good reading there lol , be interesting to see if these guys reply to any of the commentsQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
I dont know whos worse the heli campany or these muppets.
Watched another nz vid , if you scroll to 12 min pretty sure the guide say,s "you shot him rite in the guts " ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ9sJ65DQaI
Disgusting ! Name and shame the chopper co so others can vote with their wallets in future.
Was it just me, or did that muppet get back in the machine with a loaded rifle ? He seemed totally incompetent
ALPINE HELICOPTERSQuote:
Originally Posted by Pengy
yes that is said.....the young fella does fire finisher and is pissed with himself for first shot not being right...good on him for that..... but yip a bunch of muppets again dressed to nines in full camo...presumably the sponsers product???Quote:
Originally Posted by Boaraxa
as to the eye fillets........... if thats all the meat they retrieved they should be hung drawn and quartered,its not like the stag was in rutted up condition or the carry out was long or hard (probably drove 4 wheeler to within stones throw) salami or mince galore left on hill to rot.....muppets.
Second shot is a clean miss go,s under the brisket , guessing that's why they stoped filming
Ffs
Is it really that far removed from shooting trophy stags behind the wire?? Any real outdorsperson hunter is disgusted by both surely. .. it's like hitting countdown and cruising the trophy game animal isle next to the biscuits. ....
I'm just having a quiet chuckle to myself, these Guys make my shooting look good ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Boaraxa
Does this go on in areas of public land or just on private?
PublicQuote:
Originally Posted by nak
Who was the Kiwi guide/company? Could anyone tell?
Alpine Helicopters/Minaret StationQuote:
Originally Posted by Kudu
Pretty shit but cant go blaming either crowd. Blame the rule makers
BothQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag
Oh so was it on private property?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
I agree it isn't fair chase... As said you can't blame the guys making the most of the opportunity. At the start he does say it is the only place in he world you can do this. At least they realise this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
New Zealand game animals are vastly under managed, mainly due to the fact that they are introduced pests :ORLY: I'm not that up to speed with politics and partitions but is there one around to sign saying that there needs to be a change?
I didn't think it was legal to herd animals with the chopper? If that's what made it on film imagine what was cut
True right you can blame the guys making the most of the opportunity especially when they are a group with a large following who should be portrating hunting and hunters in general in a good light not as a bunch of trigger happy hooligans that fly round in helicopters chasing animals untill they are tired enough to shoot. There is absolutely NO sport in that. Sure there are others to blame also, the guiding company and the lawmakers for one but these guys have let themselves down, they have let down NZ as a destination for the hunting purist and they have let down the entire hunting fraternity.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
I understand that these animals may be classed as noxious pests and that there is a need to control them via methods such as aerial shooting,but hunting and pest control are two entirely different things and what they did here on this video has no place within the hunting community and therefore does not belong on youtube channel of a group that should be championing the cause not hurting it. Dickheads all of them they can piss off out of NZ and never come back as far as im concerned.
Wondered about that... Bit dodgy for the chopper flying in the firing zone of someone not used to using a frpirearm eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
Its just more of the same thing that has gone on for a long time. Most hunters would be shocked at the numbers of game animals taken by Aath in this very manner.
The huge amount of protests and dismay over Aath fell upon deaf ears over the years and continues till this day.
Doc condone this type of activity due to removing of game animals from our mountains and the government welcome the revenue bought into the country.
Use the helicopter to get there by all means but then walk and hunt as you are supposed to on foot. There was some dodge stuff going on alright and some day they will come unglued and an accident will happen.
Until policies change it will continue.
Just like prostitution, quasi legal but not what I'd like my country to be known for. I've written to Alpine, I seldom fly but will never give them any consideration in the future.
Cock smokers.
B
you have got to wonder....why didnt chopper firm net the animals and bring back and put in small holding paddock......... guess the hour or so they get to charge for flying all around looking for animals is a real good earner for them.....
if the final outcome was going to be this and the powers that be have condoned it would it be better for all concerned to just let them be shot from the chopper and be done with it?????
the other chammy wouldnt have been hazed then.....
a shit sandwitch no matter which way you slice it.
This clip gives a good idea as to what really go,s sic fucks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcDMX4tQTy4
It's legal, unfortunately. Morally wrong and ethically wrong in many of our eyes. Many of us tried to have a hand in stopping it - writing submissions, emails and letters, and reducing it to occurring on private land only as a best case scenario. Unfortunately it happens a lot, I've witnessed it on tahr but not chamois, they target trophy animals, and at the end of the day money talks. DoC don't care, they clip their ticket and it all adds up to a reduction in animal populations - win win for them. There was a list of approved AATH operators floating around but I can't find it - but some of the most popular companies who fly us in as hunters do it so we're a bit hamstrung there to start naming and shaming. At the end of the day, for the heli companies it's another source of income - and from guys who want to spend money rather than us Kiwi hunters who want dropped of for the least amount of money as possible. One of the most unfortunate things I think is that AATH has the full backing of the NZPHGA, which survives solely on having these animals as a resource. So can't see much changing in the near future. The one thing going for this though, is it has been seen by a good number of hunters or people interested in hunting and looking at the comments, the vast majority are very much anti this being an acceptable way to hunt!
It's a bit of a grey one really - hazing is 'illegal' where an animal is caused unnecessary distress (how one proves that I don't know), herding is perfectly fine and animals can be 'herded' towards the shooter - unless it impedes on other users/hunters/or interferes with recreational hunters on site. Or the shooter can just shoot from a machine if they want to keep things simple...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy