Just look at how this Spiker shot last night was lifted off his feet and thrown into the trees. 2506 AI hit him like an uppercut from Mike Tyson.
You don't get that with a 260 or creedmore !Attachment 127667Attachment 127668
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Just look at how this Spiker shot last night was lifted off his feet and thrown into the trees. 2506 AI hit him like an uppercut from Mike Tyson.
You don't get that with a 260 or creedmore !Attachment 127667Attachment 127668
I must have tried to climb the tree to get away from the bee that he thought stung him.
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That spot looks familiar.....hope you had young Harry with you ?
says the 25/08 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP
I new someone would comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
I do love the .25 Cal nothing wrong with them.
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It was such an ingracious undignified end to the poor chap I thought a story was more fitting than the truth.
The truth being that the 100 mtr shot ( excuses here ) being down hill off the knees into a window in the bush - the deer having been positively identified and sexed off course - hit slightly low, split the heart and what should have been an easy recovery took about an hour to carry the deer (whole gutted) back up the hill after he torched off down into the bush and piled into the boughs and branches to his demise as seen in the unaltered pictures of his last resting place.
Did it take you a little bit to find him? He looks a bit blown up. Could be brusing from the mighty impact of the 25 cal and smashed the diaphragm as well tho eh[emoji16]
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Nice fat animal.
Any 25 cal. fans on here tried the 131 grain Blackjack high Bc bullets? ( .627 g1 bc I think) but needs a faster twist barrel.
Interested in this as well I'm thinking of a .25 Creedmoor.Quote:
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Only 20 minutes to find, bloody dog went to it then lost interest while I looked in the wrong place and couldn't find a way down to the dog anyway so I had to find it myself. Seems to happen if she hasn't seen it before the shot. No smashed diaphragm, shot went low behind the near front leg split the heart and broke the off-side leg. I agree he looks blown up but was just a good well grown model with a bit of fat in the abdominal cavity and a full tummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
With that sort of bc should be a mean little cannon. Better barrel life than the. 243.Quote:
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Do you know any more about this...? What sort of twist is required?Quote:
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No comment...tee hee..Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
I don't think those bullets will help with your problem @Strummer ( gun problem, not the lack of Kingfish problem) because as a match bullet they are likely no good for hunting and with the required twist will be hard to get going fast. Bed the action, recoil lug and first 30mm under the chamber, that will fix the gun. The best 25's run 1 in 12 twist, long throats and a specially narrow shaped rifling that doesn't distort the bullet much or generate high pressure. Shot with 100 grainers at 35 - 3600fps +Quote:
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Where can I get me some of these 131gn Blackjacks.
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From blackjacks website.(don’t ask me about getting bullets sent to NZ). Started out at a target round but they do soft points. But you need a faster twist barrel to obtain accuracy. 6.5mm has gained huge traction amongst paper punchers so these guys are having a crack with .257 bore. But for me, I’d love to see some higher bc .257 hunting rounds in the 117~125 grain region that don’t require a barrel change.
There’s a Facebook group called 25-06 Remington, lots of typical American rant on it but good for see what loads people are doing that suits their model of rifle etc.
From the outside going to a high bc 25, heavier bullet seems like a good idea but the light ones fully penetrate so what will the heavy's achieve? A drop in velocity, a curvy trajectory and ruining the things that make 25 cals work. 85 grn Barnes at 3800fps is going to be better than a 131 at 2950
I had a play with the 125 gr Matrix bonded bullets, when he was making them, bc of .495 if I recall correctly, shot pretty well in my Sako, but it had two short barrel at 22", and was a bit slow, didn't really see any real advantage and went back to the 110 gr accubond,
Got 195 or so left if any one is interested, 1/2 bonded, 1/2 std jacked cup and core.
Hi Moa hunter, yeah I agree with what you mean [except some 'experts' may argue your last sentence regarding down range results?], I can't see the point of making the 25 perform like a 6.5 as the 6.5 has been well tweaked of the years with numerous subtle variations to the chambering. But it's kinda good the 25 is getting some attention and bullet makers are investing in developing new rounds to keep up with other calibers.
Hi Southernman I bought your sako 25-06 and i'm enjoying it. Last year I was very busy so I didn't get out much but have downed a few reds and Chamois, mostly around 300 metres. I hope to play with a few loads this year so I'm more confident for longer range.
Hi Buzo, I thought it was you, I sold it to, kinda miss having that rifle in the safe, brilliant string of success, I had with it, up until I took it Thar hunting, and asked an Accubond to do at 400m, what I expected at 100m, picked up another used Funlight in 708 and chopped it back to 18", so all set for a stainless sako.Quote:
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Hope the rifle is treating you well, and your getting out for a stroll,
Your swani is getting a work out, I've got it in Canada, -35 deg here today, and windy as all hell, likely -44 or so with the wind chill, I've been wearing it with a rain jacket over the top, to cut the wind, then overall's overtop, hell of a way to make a living,
Hi nice to hear from you, and I'm glad that swanie is of some use. I don't know how you cope at that temp. day in day out, but i'm sure you'd get bloody well acclimatised for southern alps hunting! I used a few of your accubonds seemed ok, and shot shot a red yearling in the lung at 270~m from memory and he only went 10~15 metres, must of damaged all the right bits? was quite a mess inside. Have changed to hornady 117 but I'm not keen to shoot beyond 350 yet.
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I find the 2506 very easy to hit things with. I could see the hit on the spiker but with a higher recoiling calibre I would not. With a 131 gr bullet the recoil will be up to much the same as a 270 with 130's - it will be slightly less because of a slightly lower powder charge at a guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzo
High velocity makes the 25's with flat trajectory. The spiker was shot with a 110 AB. Hole straight through so why do I need to go heavier ?. What went wrong with the 400mtr Tahr out of interest @southernman ??
Pretty much the wrong tool, for the job, shot two Thar, both required multiple shots to down, pretty much the accubond, didn't expand hardly at all, at 400-430m, in range, I picked up an expired Accubond, that had passed threw the 2nd Thar, and struck the rock bluff behind, hadn't expanded hardly at all, certainly not past its diameter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
A good old soft point, 115 partion or 117gr Hornardy, would likely have work out much better.
I hadn't been in Thar hunting, on the east side, and took the wrong rifle, my first thought, on driving into the McCauley Valley, was I should have bought the .264 win or 7x57,
I'd say it's more likely that the 2506 put a tiny little hole in it, it ran for 200m and got caught up in that there branch
I'm going to use 120s in .260 for the same reason. With bigger cals I don't sight the hit but see the animal on the ground kicking or trying to get up:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
That's very interesting, the AB is supposed to perform like a partition but obviously didn't. I run the AB's at 3250 - I thought I would get them faster but being a hard bullet they seem to hit pressure sooner than say a Sierra. I have found the 110 AB to generally drop deer on the spot out to 300 which is as far as I have shot them with it.Quote:
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A friend has shot a reasonable sample of Tahr with Nosler BT's in his 2506 and they have pretty much all plonked on the spot. The furthest being a big bull at 560 mtrs.
My 2506 is really reserved as a Chamois Laser.
Given the very light frame and narrow sectional density of a chamois, I'd be using a more frangible bullet than an AB. I tried all sorts of bullets in my 257 Ackley (similar speed to your 25/06) and had the most success with either 100gr Hornady spire point or 100gr and 115gr Nosler BT's. They all opened up nicely with extensive damage, causing a very quick immobilizing affect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Accubonds are hard bullets and need to be driven fast and into bone to be effective.
I tried all sorts and settled on the AB's. Tried 100grn sierras = blew to pieces + shallow fleshwound. 117 sierra = good on piggy's flew to pieces on deer. 100 grn corelokt = pass through. 100 grn Hornady FBSP= pass through. 120 Hornady HP very good + very accurate but can't get them anymore. I was shooting the 100's at 3500 and this was just too much for the poor little things (I mean the bullets )Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
110gr eld x or 117gr interlock?
100gr hot cor or 120gr btsp?
I like speers myself. Light and hardish or heavy and frangible.
My favorites were Hornady 120HP I shot a heap of animals with them, then went to 115 B Tips and 110grn AB in my 25/08
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I shot a lot of game with a .25/06 before moving on to .270s and still have a .257 Rob AI. Agree with a lot of the comments above also.
The 87 and 90 projectiles are all very soft, at 06 speeds, excluding Barnes and will blow up on medium game.
The 100 grain Hornady spire point is a good medium game bullet at 06 speeds. Not to soft, opens up quicker than the 117/120s. Sadly no longer made. 100 gn bts shoot well. Once you get to game above large goat, fallow stag size, I reckon you need to go to a 115+. The 100 gn barnes TSX works well on goat, fallow, whitetail, Rusa size deer.
The trap here is the harder 120 cup and core projectiles can pencil through a bit and be erratic killers If you don’t hit some good bone IME.
Personally I prefer softer 130s (Sierra, Speer, hornady) in the .270 verse 117/120s in the .25 on medium game for more knockdown but each to his own.
Yes, I have to agree the 270 is a better killer than the 2506 without overkilling stuff. It seems to cause hydrostatic shock and collapse easily on med sized animals whereas the 25 needs accurate shot placement to do the same. The difference with the 25 is it just seems hard to miss - they are just very easy to hit with, sort of like a 243 but with lots of steroids. The previous owner of my rifle left me some rounds loaded with 62 grns of IMR 4831 and 85 grn bullets that would clock 3920 fpsQuote:
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All good stuff to hear. I was thinking of checking out the 115 Barnes.
In the past few years I’ve gone from.243 (lost 2 deer in a row) then 270 now 25-06 just because it’s all I think I need for what I shoot (I don’t chase trophy stags)I’m loving it. I felt everything I killed with the .270 was overkill.
I agree, the big .25 is like a blasty .243 with another 150m of usable range when setup right.
