Thread: A question for the doubters

Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick

Anything that walks this country, except for wild cattle. I wouldn’t hunt them with anything that I could shoulder and shoot accurately.
There’s times when you have to walk away, and that’s if they don’t present a decent angle, or of it’s too windy for the distance.

Na, haven’t shot an elephant with my .22 @Gibo but I did shoot a spiker with it out spotlighting possums. Never again.

My first years of hunting were goat culling on a family farm - predominantly with a .22lr. That’s how I was taught, knew no different. There were limits though, head and neck shots only and the ammo of choice was Winchester Lazer.

Would those times be less frequent if you were using a more powerful "traditional" deer cartridge?
Not sure I get what you mean about the wild cattle?

Originally Posted by Shearer

Would those times be less frequent if you were using a more powerful "traditional" deer cartridge?
Not sure I get what you mean about the wild cattle?

Could only be less frequent if the more ‘traditional’ cartridge had less wind drift. That’s basically why I built a 22 creedmoor, because I’m not awesome enough to shoot big guns well. That’s the windy day gun. As for the animal giving a decent shot angle, that doesn’t change regardless of cartridge.

As for the wild cattle, I’m too chicken shit to hunt them with anything!

Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick

Could only be less frequent if the more ‘traditional’ cartridge had less wind drift. That’s basically why I built a 22 creedmoor, because I’m not awesome enough to shoot big guns well. That’s the windy day gun. As for the animal giving a decent shot angle, that doesn’t change regardless of cartridge.

As for the wild cattle, I’m too chicken shit to hunt them with anything!

There's little advantage to anything else in hit probability until you're past maybe 400 metres.

Years back my older brother,father and farm owner were out back of farm,huge hereford bullock who was completely feral was seen at close range on farm track.farm owner said"that would make good beef" blap blah.went brothers mini 14 two rounds into head and the hard work began.luckily they could get tractor to him. I didn't see beast but along with meat a cannon bone n foot came home.it was huge. Shot placement within range.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Years back my older brother,father and farm owner were out back of farm,huge hereford bullock who was completely feral was seen at close range on farm track.farm owner said"that would make good beef" blap blah.went brothers mini 14 two rounds into head and the hard work began.luckily they could get tractor to him. I didn't see beast but along with meat a cannon bone n foot came home.it was huge. Shot placement within range.

I got a 230 lb boar one night with my BRNO 22 shot him out of the car window on a remote road in Gisborne but that 22 at the 15 metre range it was would group into a one cent coin - one shot just above his ear hole and dead pig

Originally Posted by gimp

There's little advantage to anything else in hit probability until you're past maybe 400 metres.

I was about to say wtf does wind drift have to do with anything in this convo

Originally Posted by Gibo

I was about to say wtf does wind drift have to do with anything in this convo

I mean, you'd select a cartridge and bullet based on assumptions about terminal effectiveness and hit probability. Amongst other things. If you're satisfied with terminal effectiveness you'd only be thinking about hit probability. It's assumed but not always true that reduced wind drift improves hit probability.

Originally Posted by gimp

I mean, you'd select a cartridge and bullet based on assumptions about terminal effectiveness and hit probability. If you're satisfied with terminal effectiveness you'd only be thinking about hit probability. It's assumed but not always true that reduced wind drift improves hit probability.

Rationally. Irrationally you may select a cartridge and bullet based on any number of insane criteria

Originally Posted by gimp

Rationally. Irrationally you may select a cartridge and bullet based on any number of insane criteria

Criteria I used in making my last purchase. Calibre available in rifle I wanted, calibre capable of well killing the range of game I wish to hunt{ part of terminal effectiveness}, cartridge must be easily available in most parts of the world, as I wish to hunt over seas. And from that, cartridge must be legal for said hunting. Cartridge must be capable of killing at the ranges Im comfortable with{hit probability} . Cartridge must have good choice of suitable projectiles. {other part of terminal effectiveness}

Any of that irrational or insane?