Thread: A question for the doubters

Originally Posted by Southerner223

Not that I need convinced (I'm already a 223 fan)

But there's a 3 hour podcast, 2 parts at 1.5hours each. Then another hour Q&A that covers pretty much all of the merits of using a smaller caliber. It covers @gimp points pretty well (maybe he has listened to it? If not maybe you should do one!)

Covers bullet design and it doesn't matter what head stamp is on the brass that holds the powder, how low recoil assists the shooter, wind drift etc. The interesting thing is that most people firstly miss because they suck themselves not anything to do with the rifle headstamp, so then once you hit the bullet design comes into it.

Anyway have a listen, I download podcasts and then listen when driving or walking the hound

Hunt Back country
Ep 469, 470 and I think 476 is the Q&A

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Yeah man, you’re onto it. The main subject of these podcasts is who opened my eyes to the realities of the subject. The presenter does a good job at the beginning outlining that this requires an open mind and the ability to think critically about the facts and data presented.

There was mention earlier about ‘boomers’ and there being no substitute for experience. Well that’s only true if the experience is relevant.
Someone who was a professional hunter through the 60s, 70s 80s is no doubt going to be a shit hot hunter, and I have utmost respect for those skills and knowledge. But their experience of 224 centrefires from that era has no relevance now. The equipment has changed- a lot. Experience is always a good thing as long as you’re willing to still think critically, and acknowledge that things can change for the better.

So for me, if there was a firearm that sent a 162gr match bullet at 2800fps with the RECOIL of an 80gr at that same speed, then I’m all in. Big bullets will ruin more meat and potentially kill faster, as well as spill more blood. But it is a proven fact (through various military studies) that as recoil increases, hit probability decreases. Markedly.

To kill, first I have to hit. And if that’s from a compromised position in the field, I know I’m more likely to hit with a cartridge that produces less recoil. Everything in life is a compromise, and that’s way I choose to make it work for me.