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Hunter_Nick A question for the doubters 29-08-2024, 11:53 AM
Barry the hunter culling I shot a lot of deer... 29-08-2024, 12:11 PM
andyanimal31 I'm with Barry on this one.... 29-08-2024, 04:22 PM
gimp Actual specific bullet... 29-08-2024, 12:15 PM
7mmwsm And you cannot compare deer.... 29-08-2024, 12:45 PM
Hunter_Nick Based on? Is a rutting stag a... 29-08-2024, 12:54 PM
gimp Since I started shooting deer... 29-08-2024, 01:17 PM
7mmwsm Based on seeing reasonable... 29-08-2024, 01:19 PM
gimp Gel tests conducted in... 29-08-2024, 01:24 PM
gimp Ah yes the lack of... 29-08-2024, 10:01 PM
gimp I have shot every stag I've... 29-08-2024, 01:15 PM
caberslash Yeah nah. Following that... 29-08-2024, 11:06 PM
7mmwsm Often arrows do not work. An... 29-08-2024, 11:20 PM
Micky Duck Agree,the heavy loads you... 29-08-2024, 03:02 PM
Eat Meater I think you'll have trouble... 29-08-2024, 12:21 PM
Barry the hunter well I believe we could all... 29-08-2024, 12:39 PM
caberslash Me listening to the boomers... 29-08-2024, 11:02 PM
Barry the hunter ohhh you are so wrong on so... 29-08-2024, 11:53 PM
Nathan F No. I much prefer my 223 over... 30-08-2024, 09:58 PM
Stocky The same can be said of any... 30-08-2024, 01:26 PM
Snoppernator That's a great point Stocky. ... 30-08-2024, 01:39 PM
Hunter_Nick Objective data- I’ve... 29-08-2024, 12:38 PM
SPEARONZ It’s guntuber theory vs real... 29-08-2024, 12:50 PM
Maxx I remain of the view that... 29-08-2024, 12:50 PM
Barry the hunter Maxx I absolutely agree my... 29-08-2024, 12:54 PM
SmokeyJason I went for a stroll with... 29-08-2024, 02:13 PM
caberslash Can't go anywhere with no... 29-08-2024, 11:08 PM
TLB I love my .223 especially... 29-08-2024, 01:13 PM
caberslash You can miss or make a hash... 29-08-2024, 11:11 PM
zeropak Its a pretty interesting... 29-08-2024, 01:35 PM
gimp Don't get me wrong. A larger,... 29-08-2024, 01:39 PM
Barry the hunter I want to see a wolverine ... 29-08-2024, 01:42 PM
Tahr Nosey Parker :) You have said... 29-08-2024, 02:21 PM
woods223 I’ve probably lost an animal... 29-08-2024, 02:02 PM
whanahuia I did count. for a reply in... 29-08-2024, 02:15 PM
Hunter_Nick Ok, so I take it that 14 dead... 29-08-2024, 02:41 PM
Gibo More sunlight entering the... 29-08-2024, 02:46 PM
Micky Duck So I do agree if we compare... 29-08-2024, 03:21 PM
gimp Even "less drift" at range... 29-08-2024, 03:13 PM
whanahuia I think you miss the point. 3... 29-08-2024, 06:17 PM
Tentman Another factor is the change... 29-08-2024, 03:10 PM
Gibo I would say if you had a... 29-08-2024, 03:13 PM
7mm Rem Mag I was using my 7mm rem mag... 29-08-2024, 03:20 PM
SPEARONZ Yea mate cartridge wars are... 29-08-2024, 03:28 PM
gimp The thing with "margin for... 29-08-2024, 03:35 PM
Gibo Momentum counts for a lot... 29-08-2024, 05:49 PM
Tentman Another thing is the amount... 29-08-2024, 03:49 PM
gimp What bullet does he use? 29-08-2024, 03:51 PM
Hunter_Nick I hope he keeps that secret... 29-08-2024, 04:31 PM
Barry the hunter yeah but hunter nick we all... 29-08-2024, 05:09 PM
Maxx I guess I could have provided... 29-08-2024, 05:37 PM
Oldbloke Watching with interest. :lol: 29-08-2024, 05:57 PM
No.3 I think you are missing the... 29-08-2024, 06:47 PM
Tentman "Factory" ammo from Belmont... 29-08-2024, 04:00 PM
gimp Belmont don't make a good... 29-08-2024, 04:05 PM
woods223 Not full time hunting but for... 29-08-2024, 06:00 PM
Gibo You cant say that, Gimp said... 29-08-2024, 06:07 PM
gimp Bad in the context of "not at... 29-08-2024, 06:19 PM
Tentman I'm not decrying the 224s,... 29-08-2024, 04:42 PM
Micky Duck I just got off phone to my... 29-08-2024, 05:00 PM
johnd Its just an ever ending... 29-08-2024, 05:08 PM
No.3 Have heard described the... 29-08-2024, 05:19 PM
Finnwolf I’ve shot deer with 222 and... 29-08-2024, 05:50 PM
Shearer Hunter_Nick. It is obvious... 29-08-2024, 06:06 PM
Gibo Nick once took down a bull... 29-08-2024, 06:09 PM
Micky Duck Well actually there was a... 29-08-2024, 06:14 PM
Gibo Stop it 29-08-2024, 06:15 PM
Barefoot I think you will find that... 29-08-2024, 06:16 PM
Finnwolf I’d be surprised if it was... 29-08-2024, 06:16 PM
Hunter_Nick Anything that walks this... 29-08-2024, 06:23 PM
gimp I'm considering taking mine... 29-08-2024, 06:29 PM
Barry the hunter the biggest fuckups I have... 29-08-2024, 07:31 PM
doinit Well good fi you young... 31-08-2024, 06:27 PM
Shearer Would those times be less... 29-08-2024, 06:43 PM
Hunter_Nick Could only be less frequent... 29-08-2024, 06:54 PM
No.3 If they aren't steamed they... 29-08-2024, 06:55 PM
Hunter_Nick I could start a thread... 29-08-2024, 06:35 PM
Micky Duck I have not taken a wapiti... 29-08-2024, 07:08 PM
Gibo Getting pretty close to the... 29-08-2024, 07:59 PM
gimp The Hague convention of 1899... 29-08-2024, 06:57 PM
No.3 Ok yep forgot that one,... 29-08-2024, 10:15 PM
57jl Bugger the popcorn is... 29-08-2024, 09:27 PM
Fatberg I think 223 a legitimate deer... 29-08-2024, 09:37 PM
Hermitage Hunter Nick I'll answer your... 29-08-2024, 09:59 PM
gimp How many deer have you shot... 29-08-2024, 10:04 PM
Hermitage Bullet construction,... 29-08-2024, 10:19 PM
Tentman The 224 bullet designs of the... 29-08-2024, 10:11 PM
whanahuia Im not sure thats whats being... 29-08-2024, 10:29 PM
Hunter_Nick Hey, I’m not annoyed about... 29-08-2024, 10:39 PM
Tentman It is the 224's in general... 29-08-2024, 10:35 PM
Hermitage I was shot in the leg by a... 29-08-2024, 10:39 PM
No.3 Wow, you are I believe quite... 29-08-2024, 10:58 PM
gimp I'm sorry that you had that... 30-08-2024, 09:02 AM
Hermitage Yeah no 'heavy for calibre'... 30-08-2024, 09:26 AM
woods223 Nice controlled and factual... 30-08-2024, 02:14 PM
whanahuia I took it as more 223 related... 29-08-2024, 10:42 PM
Tentman Another way of thinking about... 29-08-2024, 10:42 PM
Micky Duck Finally someone else says it 30-08-2024, 07:04 AM
7mmwsm Are you running your ELDM at... 29-08-2024, 10:50 PM
Tahr 80eldm 2900 out of a 22"... 29-08-2024, 10:58 PM
gimp If you start an 87gr SP and a... 30-08-2024, 09:47 AM
Tentman Quite a bit faster in the 22... 29-08-2024, 10:53 PM
7mmwsm But not in a 223? 30-08-2024, 12:21 AM
Barry the hunter I do get what a lot are... 30-08-2024, 12:27 AM
gimp Remington 700, Tikka T3, Sako... 30-08-2024, 09:42 AM
Barry the hunter good stuff Gimp the value of... 30-08-2024, 09:47 AM
6.5 CRD I dont need to be convinced... 30-08-2024, 05:45 AM
whanahuia Me disregarding anyone who... 30-08-2024, 06:59 AM
Southerner223 Not that I need convinced... 30-08-2024, 08:08 AM
gimp There are only limited... 30-08-2024, 09:01 AM
Hunter_Nick Yeah man, you’re onto it. The... 30-08-2024, 09:15 AM
Gibo The only logical way forward... 30-08-2024, 08:55 AM
199p This thread is epic Its... 30-08-2024, 09:33 AM
Barry the hunter yes agree great thread long... 30-08-2024, 09:41 AM
John Duxbury Gimp is, of course, correct.... 30-08-2024, 10:00 AM
gimp Thinking about "when is a... 30-08-2024, 10:41 AM
Shearer Smashing large bones (ie... 30-08-2024, 12:05 PM
gimp Do you find that you have... 30-08-2024, 12:29 PM
Shearer Not regularly, but it is one... 30-08-2024, 12:50 PM
gimp Have you found a .224 bullet... 30-08-2024, 12:51 PM
whanahuia Il add that most people seem... 30-08-2024, 01:17 PM
gimp Placement like this? Stealing... 03-09-2024, 04:24 PM
Tahr Here ‘tis. Proof of death.... 03-09-2024, 05:55 PM
gimp It was a well-placed shot. 03-09-2024, 06:05 PM
Shearer Not fail in killing the... 30-08-2024, 12:59 PM
Tentman Hmmm. In the last 10 years... 30-08-2024, 01:03 PM
Shearer It sounds like the bullet had... 30-08-2024, 01:11 PM
gimp The last deer I remember... 30-08-2024, 01:05 PM
gimp Please read my post and the... 30-08-2024, 01:12 PM
Shearer My reference to energy was... 30-08-2024, 01:15 PM
gimp Tone is invisible on the... 30-08-2024, 02:15 PM
Mararoa Just had a brief look through... 30-08-2024, 02:37 PM
gimp Can you quote the bit that... 30-08-2024, 02:51 PM
Hunter_Nick On the contrary - all power... 30-08-2024, 04:23 PM
whanahuia I think, judging from what I... 30-08-2024, 06:54 PM
Micky Duck That's an easy one. Bit like... 30-08-2024, 07:05 PM
Hunter_Nick If you haven’t previously... 30-08-2024, 09:36 PM
whanahuia That didnt answer my... 30-08-2024, 11:48 PM
Brad S I bet theres a correlation... 30-08-2024, 04:47 PM
Hunter_Nick Inversely proportional? 30-08-2024, 04:55 PM
Nickoli ....odd thing to bet on :D 30-08-2024, 04:56 PM
7mm Rem Mag Its not the size its how you... 30-08-2024, 05:08 PM
Mararoa You’ll notice I said all... 30-08-2024, 03:00 PM
gimp Yeah I hit go early and had... 30-08-2024, 03:05 PM
Mararoa Sorry I didn’t read your post... 30-08-2024, 03:08 PM
gimp A larger diameter bullet may... 30-08-2024, 03:17 PM
Mararoa I think we are talking the... 30-08-2024, 03:34 PM
gimp In theory- the evidence we... 30-08-2024, 03:37 PM
Mararoa Yep. So there is nothing... 30-08-2024, 03:42 PM
Stocky True I think the point is... 30-08-2024, 04:44 PM
gimp This is a good illustration... 30-08-2024, 03:54 PM
whanahuia Had a think about this one ... 31-08-2024, 11:01 AM
Micky Duck It's also light for calibre... 31-08-2024, 04:22 PM
gimp A 147gr in 6.5mm is light for... 01-09-2024, 08:36 AM
Micky Duck I was referring to the .308... 01-09-2024, 04:54 PM
gimp I'm not quite sure I... 01-09-2024, 08:44 AM
whanahuia No its not. its a model. Its... 01-09-2024, 10:41 AM
Tentman Maybe the squads for... 30-08-2024, 04:11 PM
gimp I'm a bad shot remember E:... 30-08-2024, 04:14 PM
rambo-6mmrem 223 222 22-250 etc. is great... 30-08-2024, 05:09 PM
Bushline On private land? I’m assuming... 30-08-2024, 05:51 PM
rambo-6mmrem yes, will have mainly been... 30-08-2024, 07:08 PM
Brad S can't find any peer reviewed... 30-08-2024, 05:11 PM
Lucky Man this is turning into a... 30-08-2024, 06:20 PM
Lucky If you used 80gn ELDX at 2800... 30-08-2024, 06:29 PM
Stocky Not quite jacket thickness... 30-08-2024, 06:41 PM
TLB If the .223 is as superior as... 30-08-2024, 06:36 PM
Mararoa What caliber? The biggest one... 30-08-2024, 07:11 PM
Micky Duck And if like me,you still got... 30-08-2024, 09:41 PM
Micky Duck Yip personal... 30-08-2024, 09:59 PM
Tentman Faarrrrk I hope this 223... 30-08-2024, 10:17 PM
Roarless20 I've shot fallow bucks, sika... 30-08-2024, 10:27 PM
7mmwsm Wow. You're going to be in... 30-08-2024, 11:13 PM
Flyblown In the back blocks of NZ, on... 30-08-2024, 11:20 PM
whanahuia I had a rough hill country... 30-08-2024, 11:54 PM
andyanimal31 To be fair that thinking ... 31-08-2024, 08:01 AM
gimp What bullet did you use in... 31-08-2024, 08:55 AM
andyanimal31 63 grain sierra soft point.... 31-08-2024, 09:00 AM
gimp Or an 88 eldm perhaps ? 31-08-2024, 09:08 AM
andyanimal31 I just bought a box to try in... 31-08-2024, 09:31 AM
Barry the hunter yes ya right Whanahuia 223... 31-08-2024, 08:50 AM
woods223 I would probably agree. When... 31-08-2024, 11:07 AM
Barry the hunter yeahh lots of good calibers... 31-08-2024, 11:14 AM
Tentman ^^^ Oh deer, that's nailed it. 30-08-2024, 11:36 PM
Micky Duck Pretty sure from empty cases... 31-08-2024, 08:55 AM
blip it comes down to the operator... 31-08-2024, 09:37 AM
andyanimal31 Operator all good here blip.... 31-08-2024, 09:40 AM
blip ive done my fair share of... 31-08-2024, 10:29 AM
andyanimal31 I need to get busy as got a... 31-08-2024, 09:45 AM
gimp I've had some marginal shots... 31-08-2024, 09:55 AM
makka Other than recoil, what... 31-08-2024, 09:59 AM
gimp What advantage would the .277... 31-08-2024, 10:19 AM
andyanimal31 Just wondering if you have... 31-08-2024, 10:25 AM
gimp At close range (10m) with a... 31-08-2024, 10:28 AM
Mararoa Cost? That one always... 31-08-2024, 10:36 AM
Eat Meater Sunk costs versus ongoing... 31-08-2024, 11:03 AM
7mmwsm This conversation seems to... 31-08-2024, 10:39 AM
makka This is what I am doing, will... 31-08-2024, 12:27 PM
gimp Because there is no advantage. 01-09-2024, 08:38 AM
7mmwsm Serious? No advantage in... 02-09-2024, 07:56 AM
makka Push a 75eldm at 3400fps and... 03-09-2024, 12:51 AM
whanahuia Speaking of cost. The great... 31-08-2024, 10:45 AM
Tahr To be fair, the heavy .223... 31-08-2024, 11:04 AM
Growlybear Personally, I prefer to be... 31-08-2024, 11:14 AM
Stocky Do you use match type... 31-08-2024, 11:52 AM
Growlybear I shoot factory hunting ammo.... 31-08-2024, 02:45 PM
whanahuia Cheers, so projectile price... 31-08-2024, 12:58 PM
Mararoa I’m with growlybear. Over... 31-08-2024, 11:24 AM
Roarless20 My experience of .224 75gr... 31-08-2024, 12:01 PM
Tahr There is an 80grn ELDX now. ... 31-08-2024, 12:32 PM
Micky Duck I seriously suggest you try... 31-08-2024, 05:01 PM
Stocky To the people that say they... 31-08-2024, 12:11 PM
Mararoa Prs is target shooting so... 31-08-2024, 12:37 PM
Shearer I think the 160AB would have... 31-08-2024, 12:43 PM
Mathias That's a bad comparison, ELDM... 31-08-2024, 01:00 PM
Stocky I'll wager $20 and a beer... 31-08-2024, 02:30 PM
7mmwsm Interesting wager. And I'd... 31-08-2024, 03:44 PM
Tahr I missed 2 deer last evening.... 31-08-2024, 04:23 PM
Ross Nolan This bears repeating. We... 31-08-2024, 04:44 PM
Mararoa No it’s not a bad comparison.... 31-08-2024, 01:10 PM
Mathias Fair enough. The thread has... 31-08-2024, 01:26 PM
Mararoa Yeah I think you’ve summed up... 31-08-2024, 01:44 PM
Barry the hunter when he starts deliberately... 31-08-2024, 01:56 PM
Tentman Heres how I roll with it. ... 31-08-2024, 01:54 PM
gimp Those who shoot large... 01-09-2024, 08:47 AM
ojc2 I'm certain there's shooters... 31-08-2024, 03:21 PM
gimp This is a major advantage of... 01-09-2024, 08:48 AM
ojc2 I wouldn't call the 6.5prc... 07-09-2024, 09:38 PM
Mararoa Well just shot a deer the dog... 31-08-2024, 03:54 PM
Stocky The 10 shot group is because... 31-08-2024, 04:39 PM
Bushline I fully agree with the... 31-08-2024, 04:59 PM
Hunter_Nick Alright lads, let’s get after... 31-08-2024, 06:07 PM
whanahuia Go and watch the backfire and... 31-08-2024, 06:36 PM
Roarless20 The most important point for... 31-08-2024, 07:23 PM
gimp Don't leave 01-09-2024, 08:45 AM
blip the man with one tool is... 31-08-2024, 07:48 PM
Barry the hunter Daniel Boone beware the man... 31-08-2024, 07:55 PM
Finnwolf The ‘beware of the man that... 31-08-2024, 09:38 PM
Hermitage That's a saying that gets... 31-08-2024, 09:46 PM
John Duxbury I don't think Daniel Boone... 31-08-2024, 10:11 PM
7mmwsm Daniel Boone was pretty slick... 01-09-2024, 07:55 AM
trooper90 Doe's this mean the end of... 01-09-2024, 09:21 AM
Barry the hunter really there is only one... 01-09-2024, 09:33 AM
Ross Nolan I'll go sell my 12x12 over a... 01-09-2024, 10:24 AM
Hunty1 Tell ya what... I'll be a... 01-09-2024, 12:51 PM
Ross Nolan Not if I have to drive to... 01-09-2024, 07:27 PM
caberslash Drillings and whatever the... 01-09-2024, 11:30 AM
Ross Nolan The next time I shoot a deer... 01-09-2024, 12:24 PM
Barry the hunter bull shit many of us would... 01-09-2024, 03:15 PM
Micky Duck It's interesting that this... 01-09-2024, 05:00 PM
Mararoa Excellent point. “All models... 01-09-2024, 10:54 AM
Micky Duck Years n years ago tv show... 01-09-2024, 06:31 PM
Mararoa Mickey duck. The show in... 01-09-2024, 07:22 PM
Ross Nolan Matt and Bruce Grant covered... 01-09-2024, 07:25 PM
whanahuia Just remember sufficiency is... 02-09-2024, 10:22 AM
7mmwsm Bit like my theory on testing... 02-09-2024, 11:13 AM
7mm Rem Mag Theres no animal welfare... 02-09-2024, 12:53 PM
Stocky And more isn't better. We... 02-09-2024, 11:16 AM
Mararoa In this case more is better I... 02-09-2024, 11:28 AM
7mmwsm I didn't mention 223. It was... 02-09-2024, 01:07 PM
gimp In structured experiments,... 02-09-2024, 01:15 PM
Tahr One myth that all of this has... 02-09-2024, 01:39 PM
Dicko No I don’t think so. It... 02-09-2024, 02:24 PM
Tahr Frangible being the key. Nice... 02-09-2024, 02:41 PM
gimp Yes. Nice looking recovered... 02-09-2024, 02:59 PM
Barefoot I have just finished... 02-09-2024, 01:48 PM
Dama dama Everyone following this... 03-09-2024, 11:54 AM
Mararoa I don’t think many are saying... 02-09-2024, 02:33 PM
Nickoli The thread title is "A... 02-09-2024, 02:34 PM
Micky Duck You know something really... 02-09-2024, 07:45 PM
HILLBILLYHUNTERS I used the old 196 grn in the... 02-09-2024, 08:18 PM
Shearer Although I have no scientific... 03-09-2024, 11:37 AM
Bushline That's why even lethally hit... 03-09-2024, 11:58 AM
gimp Wound is less than the... 03-09-2024, 12:28 PM
whanahuia Yep. Ive been going through... 03-09-2024, 01:15 PM
gimp maybe. maybe not ? ... 03-09-2024, 01:27 PM
Mararoa So more of everything is... 03-09-2024, 12:05 PM
Tahr Probably. But then, enough is... 03-09-2024, 12:32 PM
whanahuia Am I missing something Gimp?... 03-09-2024, 01:44 PM
gimp I'd call it a very small... 03-09-2024, 01:51 PM
whanahuia Its exactly the size i said... 03-09-2024, 02:03 PM
gimp Irony indeed. very good. ... 03-09-2024, 04:30 PM
Shearer So you don't think shock to... 03-09-2024, 05:33 PM
gimp It's getting pretty... 03-09-2024, 06:04 PM
Makros The first shot isn't... 03-09-2024, 06:17 PM
gimp Yah that was kind of the... 03-09-2024, 06:21 PM
Tahr That top vid of mine... 195... 03-09-2024, 06:32 PM
Makros Much higher than I thought. ... 03-09-2024, 06:38 PM
Tahr It was appropriate for the... 03-09-2024, 06:45 PM
Shearer I think that is the problem.... 03-09-2024, 06:54 PM
gimp https://youtu.be/QZrUZlxKR1c?s... 03-09-2024, 06:08 PM
Tahr That was a 74 grn Targex. I... 03-09-2024, 06:19 PM
Flyblown Its CNS damage that cause... 03-09-2024, 06:17 PM
whanahuia Long post here, but I hope... 03-09-2024, 06:56 PM
Tentman Haha I was just waiting for... 03-09-2024, 08:06 PM
gimp Unfortunately I don't have a... 04-09-2024, 11:05 AM
whanahuia I used the E tips a bit.... 04-09-2024, 12:48 PM
Roarless20 Ever been corked in the... 03-09-2024, 06:56 PM
gimp a corked thigh is a muscle... 04-09-2024, 11:08 AM
Shearer To add to my last post. Have... 03-09-2024, 07:09 PM
Roarless20 I've shot and seen other deer... 03-09-2024, 07:39 PM
gimp Only when I've had the bullet... 04-09-2024, 11:10 AM
Micky Duck Ahhhh the "mystical void" has... 03-09-2024, 07:53 PM
7mmwsm A mate had a dog jump in just... 03-09-2024, 10:00 PM
whanahuia 270 takes no prisoners.:D 03-09-2024, 08:14 PM
Micky Duck Amen to that. 03-09-2024, 08:21 PM
BRADS This has been a fantastic... 03-09-2024, 08:41 PM
Tentman It just makes so much sense... 03-09-2024, 08:47 PM
whanahuia I could not find much on it... 04-09-2024, 06:42 AM
Micky Duck It's all a balancing act. If... 04-09-2024, 10:06 AM
Barry the hunter Oh and the 270 belongs in a... 04-09-2024, 10:33 AM
Micky Duck Cause it can take it on the... 04-09-2024, 11:52 AM
csmiffy Horses for courses. It's not... 03-09-2024, 09:52 PM
Micky Duck Funny thing about numbers on... 04-09-2024, 09:55 AM
whanahuia Im buggered if I can find the... 04-09-2024, 12:54 PM
Stocky I'm a fan of the 22 cal bit I... 04-09-2024, 01:10 PM
gimp Hit probability of the .22cm... 04-09-2024, 02:05 PM
Tahr 88ELDM 22CM 3,200fps Hornady... 04-09-2024, 01:23 PM
BRADS Hey mate the figures I was... 04-09-2024, 01:27 PM
whanahuia I know. I was just setting... 04-09-2024, 01:39 PM
BRADS Well played Sent from my... 04-09-2024, 01:41 PM
Micky Duck Taurarua Phil is sitting back... 04-09-2024, 02:11 PM
Mararoa 162grain eldm @ 2550 7mm08... 04-09-2024, 02:48 PM
Gibo You pulled your lips off your... 04-09-2024, 02:50 PM
Tahr This from the first post: So,... 04-09-2024, 02:57 PM
Gibo I'm sold, my daughter got her... 04-09-2024, 02:58 PM
whanahuia Of course I see if... 04-09-2024, 04:05 PM
Mararoa It wasn’t a latte,... 04-09-2024, 08:08 PM
gimp The question of recoil is... 04-09-2024, 03:10 PM
Gibo A heavy rifle of any calibre... 04-09-2024, 03:14 PM
gimp Yeah weight is an unassessed... 04-09-2024, 03:20 PM
zeropak Whether a .223 is a... 04-09-2024, 05:11 PM
Micky Duck If you consider that the... 04-09-2024, 05:14 PM
gimp Many people consider the .243... 06-09-2024, 09:50 AM
SPEARONZ This discussion has more... 04-09-2024, 05:24 PM
gimp Yeah look at the ground we've... 06-09-2024, 09:46 AM
whanahuia Right, I spent a bit of time... 04-09-2024, 07:39 PM
gimp Obviously warm on the coast... 06-09-2024, 09:56 AM
whanahuia Yeah it surprised me too. I... 06-09-2024, 10:37 AM
gimp I'm counter-intuitively... 06-09-2024, 10:51 AM
7mm Rem Mag I'm just sitting here... 05-09-2024, 05:23 PM
whanahuia Good Luck. 05-09-2024, 06:56 PM
whanahuia Just surfing Youtube and this... 05-09-2024, 07:22 PM
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    In the back blocks of NZ, on rough hill country farms aways from people that worry about stuff like this, more deer are shot with the .223 Remington every year than all the other cartridges put together.
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