Thread: A question for the doubters

Originally Posted by Mararoa

Prs is target shooting so largely irrelevant to this discussion. If you can’t get a 160 grain bullet into an inch group at 100 meters that’s your problem, not mine. As far as wound channel diameter, your missing another dimension. As in length, that’s important too. If someone tries to tell me a .224 88grain eldm doing 2800fps is going to penetrate as well as a .284 160grain accubond doing 3200fps and create a larger wound channel I think I’ll scream. And yes people can shoot them accurately enough to hit a deer where they want to.

I'll wager $20 and a beer afterwards that in field positions you aren't putting 10 shots in a 1 inch target at 100 with the rifle capable of launching a 169 at 3200fps. I'm not saying that just because of recoil but also because a 3 shot moa group is not MOA an moa group and neither is a 10 really. Also a tight group not at point of aim is also no good being consistently off isn't usefull either. I'm also not saying a 223 will either BTW but it's more likely.

On penetration how much do you need there hardly a deer in this country that's thick enough that we need hugely excessive penetration. Also the higher FPS hinders pentration not helps it a 160AB at 1600fps will penetrate much more than one at 3200fps. ELDs will regularly exit so I'd say pentration is sufficient and as they slow it only increases.

Prs isn't completely irrelevant hitting a target or at what you are aiming at is hugely relevant while the setups aren't as they aren't practical often for hunting it does tend to show traits that benefit shooting precision.