Thread: A question for the doubters

Originally Posted by Stocky

I'll wager $20 and a beer afterwards that in field positions you aren't putting 10 shots in a 1 inch target at 100 with the rifle capable of launching a 169 at 3200fps. I'm not saying that just because of recoil but also because a 3 shot moa group is not MOA an moa group and neither is a 10 really. Also a tight group not at point of aim is also no good being consistently off isn't usefull either. I'm also not saying a 223 will either BTW but it's more likely.

On penetration how much do you need there hardly a deer in this country that's thick enough that we need hugely excessive penetration. Also the higher FPS hinders pentration not helps it a 160AB at 1600fps will penetrate much more than one at 3200fps. ELDs will regularly exit so I'd say pentration is sufficient and as they slow it only increases.

Prs isn't completely irrelevant hitting a target or at what you are aiming at is hugely relevant while the setups aren't as they aren't practical often for hunting it does tend to show traits that benefit shooting precision.

Interesting wager.
And I'd be on your side no matter what caliber.
That's the bit I find interesting/intriguing/scary. Internet hotshots who talk about long range hunting, but don't seem to shoot very well in a crowd.
I've seen it a few times. And it makes me wonder what some of the strike rates really are.