Thread: A question for the doubters

Originally Posted by gimp

It's getting pretty speculative at this point. I'm not aware of any good evidence to support CNS "shock" without damage from a generic "shoulder shot".

I mean what do you reckon caused this deer to flop on the spot? CNS shock, or damage?

https://youtu.be/nSr8yArHaFk?si=tl-KppgXG9QErAav

Why doesn't this one flop? shot with a 6.5 and 140gr sp. Heaps more energy and a smaller deer
https://youtu.be/c4gZnNGHG1o?si=EHUrfZUi3PAfT0r3

Or this one, 308 and 150gr
https://youtu.be/TgMjqguHnW4?si=eezMJApeEadAnpGY

I think that is the problem. There is no physical damage of shock to provide evidence.
However, absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence, and I guess if you bang/flop a deer which meets neither of your above criteria it must be a possibility.
Which takes me back to the ballistic gel tests. As you have shown, a bigger, heavier projectile doesn't necessarily produce a bigger wound channel but the extra kinetic energy it carries must go somewhere. It doesn't just disappear.