Perhaps, but the photo shopped image appears to show an American WW 1 M1907 leather sling............... Let's stick with the webbing if we can. :>)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
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Perhaps, but the photo shopped image appears to show an American WW 1 M1907 leather sling............... Let's stick with the webbing if we can. :>)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
Ah... but the beauty of a Lee action is that its bolt handle does not stick directly up at any time. The Lee's 60 degree lift (/) from the closed position (\) means you never need to lose the sight picture when racking the bolt. I say "need to" because anyone who's shot a Mauser quickly learns to lift their face off the rifle when pulling the bolt back, and with that bad habit in place you never realise that with the Lee you can just keep your head down. Also why you don't need a bent-down bolt handle to use a scope on a Lee Enfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
I suppose you could manufacture a clamp-on bolt handle cross-extension to the other side, thus avoiding the dremel-&-weld scenario. A variation on this guy's device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJdMc0Mpyg
Aaagh, I've been found out. I confess, Windows "Paintbrush" horizontal flip, but nowhere near adobe photoshop. (o;Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper
Attachment 137896 heres mine i can shoot the 3 better than the 4 but still need some practice
Vulcan Barrels has just brough in a heap of 303 gun drills and buttons to make 303 barrels more easily.
I recall maybe left hand twist to be authentic
Great to see they are still running and doing the business. I had a few shots with one around Christmas with ammo marked 1911! It would have struggled to hit a barn door with the almost smooth bore and ancient ammo, but it was an experience nonetheless.
I also had the privilege to be a part of a sniper specific battlefield tour to Ypres and Paschendale, where the first British sniper school was established. The range butts are still discernible, and we even found some projectiles there. To think some of these rifles are still active is amazing. Good on all who run them.
Nothing is impossible but it certainly is impractical! I think the reversed photo is affecting you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
If you ever find yourself over run with them, let me know, I could foster one of them for you. Might go browse the For Sale section now.Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
@ROKTOY there is a couple on there. A pair with only one bolt in the NI for not bad money
Only 12 months guarantee??? They last a lot longer. Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Look Micky,Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
A left handed .303 for sale!
Grandpamac.
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Originally Posted by grandpamac
Are the more pricy ones the left hand ones?:D
oh come along now fellas....I found you a genuine advert.....the picture tells all.......no photoshop back when that add was printed......
Well spotted. Respect!Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
Australia had a dumb law back then that banned military calibres so resulted in the 25-303 270-303 and a few others I think a 375-303 was one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper
IIRC that law banning mil calibres was in NSW only. Which was weird as Mick Smith Sports started out his business buying milsurp rifles an selling them interstate. Mick Smith also developed the 7.7x54 to get around the NSW laws of the day. Basically a 303 barrel set back 1 or 2 threads (cannot remember which).Quote:
Originally Posted by shooternz
The only people permitted to own an ex mil calibre in NSW were graziers, pest destruction, maybe a few others cannot remember. Micky D's posting of 303s for sale at Melbourne Firearms, Vic (a biggy in its time, still going) shows unadulterated 303s for sale.
In its day Mick Smiths in George Street Sydney was huge. Visited a couple a times in the 80's when the store was already in decline. Closed a few years ago.
Are the .303 gaining popularity ? Having a resurgance ?
I think yes, partly on the back of Jacinda bucks, and partly due to folk realising there is a lot of charm / history to these.
Growing up I spurned the "three oh " relying on levers, and shy of all the information regarding poor safety design ( the reason we are a nation of 1/2 cockers )
This was probably also due to my hunting mentor only having fingers on his off hand. He could fire and work a lever with his thumb more readily than work a bolt.
Most govt deer culling had gone by the way side and choppers filled the sky ( ten four good buddy ) as I approached hunting age..
Fast forward 40 years and I find my interest in them raised, and I can now usually tell the difference from a 3 and a 4. With taking up TR ( full bore ) I keep looking for something unmolested or even in traditional range configuration.
But dare I say it a P14 would be betterer.
:OSMILEY: Gasp!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnd
A mate gave me two well used old 303s when i was about 20 years old (2000's) as he didnt have a firearms licence, they were found in a family estate,fired one once it threw bullets end over end , at the time i thought "old peices of shit" after i offered them back to the guy that gave them to me (he didnt want them) i took them to the cop shop.
kick myself every time i think about it,IDIOT
:OSMILEY: Gasp!!! (now also wheezing).Quote:
Originally Posted by muka88
Haha I have a heap of them now after being bitten hard by the BSA Sporter/Lee Speed bug & this is after I got rid of ever single mag & part for MLE SMLE No4 No5 from when I was younger, spent last 10yrs getting the bits back .
In fact just today was give a nice old No3 SMLE from a old guy with no FAL !
And you said to him, "Thank you for making New Zealand safer!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Scout
Oh Crap, good point, I didn't, he gave it to me, are you sure that made NZ safer ??
i feel way fukn safer thank you @Scout
Yes, the Americans have a thing for "scout rifles". No real NZ equivalent, and "bushpig" does not quite have the same cool factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by GDMP
Or name
Really? To me, the number 5 meets the criteria very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
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Greetings GDMP and All,Quote:
Originally Posted by GDMP
Agreed. An excellent point. Lets hope some see the benefits of looking after and feeding some old soldier rather than hosing down cardboard soldiers with cheapo mil spec ammo, much more rewarding in the end. As Scout has found there lots of rifles looking for a new home in NZ. We just need to find them or for them to find us. Lets see what turns up next.
Regards Grandpamac.
Greetings GDMP and All,Quote:
Originally Posted by GDMP
Agreed. An excellent point. Lets hope some see the benefits of looking after and feeding some old soldier rather than hosing down cardboard soldiers with cheapo mil spec ammo, much more rewarding in the end. As Scout has found there lots of rifles looking for a new home in NZ. We just need to find them or for them to find us. Lets see what turns up next.
Regards Grandpamac.
Ima true cackhander and have no major problems using normal firearms >im also a tightarse and im not paying an extra $100.00 simply for a LHmodel.Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
During my Tf careerall drill prior to firng done right handed -lasrt min flick to left shoulder to fire .did had some probs with ejection of5.56 cases from m16 causing a facial burn but easily sorted throwing shoulder forward shotty style .bren -nup right hand all the way left handed looks like an octopus trying to molest itself!
all my present arms cause me no probs whatsoever including the grand old dame my 1943 No4 Mk1*longbranch .303
somewhere in my collection of old NZ hunting mags i have an article on a DIY gunsmith/farmer whose skills created about 9 different versions of our beloved .303
one of interest was a no4 which he rebarreled with an arisaka?? barrel set further back plus modified bolt face in effect making it 7.62x39-apparently with pigs a scourge on the farm it was a race to grab this and go deal .apparently all of his kids took pigs with it.bloody fascinating article to read and photos as well.
must see if i can find it amongst gear+++++++++++.
my 180gnrounds trundel along around 2100-2200FPS but the impact is the important one.
regarding the scorn of some writers .(without names)one stated quite flatly given the differences between .303/.308 either was a bloody effective killer if used properly and he'd yet to see an animalthat knew the diference when dropped.
another rather quixotically condemned the .30 to history in modern hunting but in the next paragraph states hed be keen on a 7.62x39 for bush hunting inside 150m range .
ballistics charts ive consulted generally show both rounds to have same specs give or take a few FPS so Im rather bemused.
Well I think a good time & thread maybe to post a warning on shooting off Old ammo, ALWAYS wear shooting glasses & ear protection !!
I mowed the lawn & thought ill stick a mag through that 303 I just got, I had checked & cleaned barrel, it looks good, all matching numbers so didn't check head space (to be fair I normally shoot all sorts of bitser 303's) fulled up the mag with some old millitary rounds, all looked to be in good nick (again I shoot some terrible condition ammo but this was nice) stuck some ear muffs on SANS safety glasses (picked them up, dirty & have trouble seeing sights even with clean ones & only shooting a mag ! ?) shot like a Mad Minute & second to last round blew up, got a bit of crap in the eye & a little in the face, good really from the look of the case, no primer to be found !
The rest of the fired cases looked fine .
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ouch-literally dodged a bullet there. To be fair it isn't the nicest looking bit of brass around
Looked the same as that unfired cartridge before firing, I don't actually know why it failed ?
that is a bugger then. Cant be too much of the rifles fault. You would've thought it would do it to a heap of them not just one.
Split at the neck and down by the rim/web
Chamber might be a bit loose.
Considering that as per some of our PM's my P14 has a way bigger chamber than a couple of my lee enfields as I found out.
is it still under warranty
ive had head/case seperations occur periodically when attempting to eject fired cases (milsurp).actually iwas even given a specific .303case removal tool found in 2Cant NMWC RQMS in the KEB in CHCH.the RQMSat time reckoned i was uglier than a fired.303 mangier than an unfed lab and the fact i was a"nuit nurse"scared the shit out of him .thanking you wo1Steve Witton
"hey you spotty herbert"
now ant round with a bright ring between case /head -out is goes no execeptions.a rattale rasp willaslo remove jammed broken cases if youre desperate.
Old bloke at deerstalkers shoot told me a cup of boiling vinegar down ya barrel periodically if using milsurp ammo will clean out any shit &corrosive crap!
barrel dries quick with a shine any RSM would cry over!!
Haha, right should have a go at CAC then, it has something to do with the 80yr old ammo !Quote:
Originally Posted by northdude
Just thought I would post it as a reminder, I normally do wear safety glasses when shooting off crappy looking or old ammo in Older rifles !
It the primer, usually potassium chlorate based, had mercury fulminate in it, could it have embrittled the case even if unfired? 70 yrs is a long time to store it, not designed to cope with that, mercury does evaporate even from amalgam tooth fillings and deposits on metals, why not internally in the cartridge? Give it enough time and the effect may be significant. Mercury fulminate primers are required to be made of copper, not brass, so the colour of the primers may give a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scout
I've had apparently good ww2 ammo split nearly every neck of a bandolier of 50, but again don't know if there was mercury fulminate in British/CAC primers.
Here's some cleaner ammo, but it might still split the necks at least.
Attachment 138183
As for splitting at the base... don't think mercury embrittling would do that. The base of cartridge is meant to be hard, the same reason we never anneal the base of a cartridge. I'd look for some reason the gun was just not supporting the cartridge base.
hope this isnt going to far off course but how about the 303 25 how good was that round always been curious do i need one a bit of aussie history
