Short barrel 6.5prc vs .270win

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Originally Posted by 7mm tragic

You could always just thread your 270 at it's current length and try it for a couple of hunts. If you don't like it you still have options.

I bush hunt with a suppressed 20 and a suppressed 22 inch rifle no problems.

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stop being so logical....... terrible suggestion,it will not give much extra money to the retailers or gunsmiths.... and the OP wont have to go and buy new dies and supplies for the new rifle..he will even be able to use up old loads so no benifit to retailers there either..terrible suggestion.

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Originally Posted by TLB

As far a shorter barrels go, when the Duleys did all of those bush pigs it was the .270 that come out on top wasn't it?
Something like a 145gr eldx getting over 2900 out of a shorter barrel with superformance powder. The general consensus was a magnum suppressor with 18" and no shorter than that.

I have a .308 and if I punch those numbers into the ballistics app makes the short barrel .308 looks like it has the trajectory of a brick.
The recoil will still be a lot less than any magnum and very manageable.

Put it this way, if guys off this forum can shoot deer with a .270 and lrab out to 800 odd yards going 2800ish with adi powder in a longer barrel. Then out of an 18" or 19" barrel with more modern powder going the same velocity you have a pretty versatile setup.
Worried about recoil, just download some 120gr or 130gr ssts or nosler ballistic tips for closer stuff.

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Yea they found the 270 performed the best when they could only use factory ammunition in that configuration for sponsorship reasons. When reloading was an option so they could influence the performance then they would use something else.

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

And very slow that slower than a .260 or Creedmoor which are both better options for shorter barrels.

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That's faster than an 18inch Creedmoor or .260 with Factory ammo which is what he's using.

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Originally Posted by TimC

That's faster than an 18inch Creedmoor or .260 with Factory ammo which is what he's using.

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yep.1300 ft lb at 530 yards ish and close to 1200 at 600.not a bad little hammer.Needmoor would be low 2600s or even in the 2500s.

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Originally Posted by TimC

That's faster than an 18inch Creedmoor or .260 with Factory ammo which is what he's using.

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But only if you are using factory ammo in the .260 or Creedmoor.
Being a reloader I can get more out of a Creedmoor or .260 with the same length barrel and using less powder than using factory loads in a 6.5prc which has more recoil and more powder.

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Originally Posted by Yesmate

yep.1300 ft lb at 530 yards ish and close to 1200 at 600.not a bad little hammer.Needmoor would be low 2600s or even in the 2500s.

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Again only if using factory ammo

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Originally Posted by Yesmate

yep.1300 ft lb at 530 yards ish and close to 1200 at 600.not a bad little hammer.Needmoor would be low 2600s or even in the 2500s.

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Yeah my 18" Creedmoor is 2500 with 140eldm factory ammo. Kills very well.

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Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP

Again only if using factory ammo

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why are you comparing factory with a hotted up load?its a stupid topic to discuss.compare a hotted up PRC to your 260 or creed and the nick name needmoor will become clear.

For reference. 6.5 prc SAAMI chamber but over 3" ammo lenght due to being able to in a XM lenght Defiance action.
153 grain atip, 22" barrel 2950fps....can crack 3000fps but starting to get hard on primer pockets.

the 6.5PRC will do better, however for only 400m you can easily use a 16" 6.5 creedmoor and save on powder and recoil and plenty of factory ammo if you get too lazy to reload or cant find primers

if you aren't hellbent on a tikka, then save some weight, powder and recoil and get a 6.5 Grendel in a howa mini or one of the new 6mm ARC - Assuming you are hunting NZ species that is

The fundamentals of it are this:
If you want velocity out of a short barrel, you have to go big in the cartridge that you’re firing. Yep, .308 etc lose less velocity when short, but a bigger cartridge with a short barrel will still gross a higher muzzle velocity.

It just depends on what you’re chasing in outcome….

Go 300wsm, fast and fat