A slightly different narrative/ alternate view.

I thought I share a few pics from last 18 months or so with a description of distance, bullet type, calibre and point of impact. Because my experience is different and my hunting style ids also different from much of what we see at the moment.

https://i.postimg.cc/7P2WwdMH/boar_223.jpg

Boar of 120lb. headshot. .223 55gr PPU projectile, distance 40 meters dead on spot.

https://i.postimg.cc/FR2C0VmX/Fallow_223.jpg

Fallow buck, .223 55gr PPU projectile, headshot 70 meters dead on spot


https://i.postimg.cc/05D4XHSd/James_Buck.jpg

Fallow buck. 300 win mag 180gr Federal projectile mid shoulder 280 meters, dead on spot

https://i.postimg.cc/YCn4Lw7G/20230228_072620.jpg

60lb boar, 270win 130gr speer boattail projectile, 120 meters forward shoulder. dead on spot.

https://i.postimg.cc/jjL4Snwb/New_farm_boar.jpg

Boar 150lb, 270 win 130gr speer boat tail projectile, 60 meters high shoulder angled down. dead on spot.

https://i.postimg.cc/jd1pssvS/Jock_and_spiker.jpg

Fallow spiker, 270 win 130gr speer boat tail projectile, 100 meter shot, mid shoulder. dead on spot.

https://i.postimg.cc/Bv8pk20D/20231125_095204.jpg

Red 2yr stag, 6.5 grendal 120gr SST projectile. 40 meters, forward shoulder dead on spot

https://i.postimg.cc/bJDXfLk2/Rough_creek_Cham.jpg

Chamois buck, 270 win 130gr speer boat tail. 120meters mid shoulder dead on spot

https://i.postimg.cc/W47rFBQm/20240309_181259.jpg

Bull Tahr, shot behind front leg. 270 win 130gr speer boat tail projectile. 170 meters Ran 160 meters Chamois buck. shot mid shoulder 50 meters, dead on spot. Same rifle and projectile.

https://i.postimg.cc/WzJ4zBjB/20240409_125414.jpg

Red stag. 150gr 7x57r projectile, shot forward shoulder. 30 meter shot, Dead on spot

https://i.postimg.cc/bdcwtmws/My_stag.jpg

Red stag, 270 win, 130gr speer boat tail projectile 35 meter shot. Neck shot. Dead on spot.

https://i.postimg.cc/0NXkYm49/Best-pic-Kris-bull.jpg

Bull tahr, 6.5x57r, 140gr accubond projectile. Shot forward shoulder,220 meters ran 25 meters downhill.

https://i.postimg.cc/Vs93ms9R/Mike-cham.jpg

Chamois. 7x57r 150gr projectile, 70meter shot. mid shoulder. dead on spot.

https://i.postimg.cc/SNyHs0Dp/mike-stag.jpg

Red stag. 7x57r 150gr projectile, shot mid shoulder 120 meters. ran 60 meters

https://i.postimg.cc/bJPt4Q1b/boar-side.jpg

Boar 170lb. 270win 130gr speer boat tail projectile.forward shoulder, 40 meters. dead on spot

https://i.postimg.cc/zBXbwKDq/Chams-waterfall.jpg

2 chamois shot behind shoulder 6.5x57 140gr accubond behind front leg. range from 220 too 60 meters. both dead within 40 meters
1 chamois shot mid shoulder, 130gr speer boat tail .270. 50 meters, dead on spot

https://i.postimg.cc/kg6yKr1T/2-boars.jpg

150lb boar 270 win 130gr speer boat tail projectile, approx 80 meters. high shoulder angled down. Dead on spot
75lb boar caught with dogs.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTfdCyq0/Me-and-Buck.jpg

While tail buck. 50cal muzzle loader 300gr projectile approx. shot high shoulder angled down. ran 120 meters

feel free to continue thread with your shots, cals and distance animal moved after shot etc.

Not to many moved after the shot, makes it a lot easier to find your animals ,well done.

Good stalking skills obviously get you close enough for a one shot kill well done!

Surprised the white tail ran so far .

I think I need to go hunting with you:thumbsup:

Wow that's an epic amount of hunting thanks for inspiration!!!

I should do a little more explaining.

Head and neck shots are only used when I dont feel I have another option. Ie can only see head or animal has seen me and is facing toward me.

Behind shoulder I dont use. Except if it's open country and I have a very lite projectile.

Mid shoulder gets used if I dont have much time/A good rest or animal is smaller etc, as it gives me the most room for error. It could also be described as "aim for the big bit!"

Forward and high shoulder are my preferred shots if I have the rest and feel I can take them.
I feel the bullet weight and velocity on such shots will generally drop the animal and it will die before it can recover.

My explanation for that not happening on the muzzle loader is lack of velocity.

You should stick to one haircut

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

You should stick to one haircut

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I dont have hair.:oh noes:

Thanks for posting a variety of real shooting and outcomes.
Is this every shot you tried or did any get away ?
It looks as if you used the right gun and the right shot for each situation.

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Originally Posted by Bagheera

Thanks for posting a variety of real shooting and outcomes.
Is this every shot you tried or did any get away ?
It looks as if you used the right gun and the right shot for each situation.

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As Ryan pointed out some of them are not me. But i was involved on all of them. Ive missed two animals in that time. One a running stag at 100 meters that paused just as I let the shot off. And a bull tahr where Im misunderstood the range my friend was giving me on the rangefinder and shot over him. One of the risks of high shoulder.

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Originally Posted by whanahuia

As Ryan pointed out some of them are not me. But i was involved on all of them. Ive missed two animals in that time. One a running stag at 100 meters that paused just as I let the shot off. And a bull tahr where Im misunderstood the range my friend was giving me on the rangefinder and shot over him. One of the risks of high shoulder.

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I forgot too add too and too late to edit. there were other animals killed, but I either dont have photos, or I cant clearly remember enough details to make it useable for this thread and purpose.

Envy.

Real world outcomes, hard to argue with. Well done and thks for the thread.

Great stuff, thanks for sharing, very inspiring and motivating.

good amount of hunts completed,good job and some nice killing there.

2x Barrett Fieldcraft (300WM and 7x57?)

Very nice :thumbsup:

Just one. The fieldcraft is .270 win. the 300 mag is a tikka and the 7x57r is a Lee Enfeild.

I could have added a lot to this thread when it comes to the data of shooting and killing animals, but sadly am I TERRIBLE at remembering or even caring about taking pictures of the animals, and it would be extremely boring without pictures.

For about my first 100 big game animals was I taking very careful notes in a journal about the animal, distance, cartridge, bullet, shot angle, entrance and exit spots, distance moved after the shot and meat damage, but for reasons I don't remember now, did I stop doing that and then I thought and still think it became pointless to start doing that again after many years without doing it.

I wish I was much better at taking pictures of the animals after I have shot them, but either I have forgotten to bring something to take a picture with or I forget to take pictures anyway.
Now, I usually have my cell phone with me, but I still forget to take picture.
Good thing I still am not so senile that I have forgotten my hunting experiences :P

Last four deer. Red stag laying down in his bed.270w 170grn rn Speer through base of neck/ forward hilar... He thrashed around but never got up. Fallow spiker 125ish yards.223 very poor shooting( possibly when my scope started packing paddy?) four rounds fired,last at point blank,finishing it off,first missed neck.second cut spine n back steaks,third missed. Fallow spiker 223 single round VMAX 55 grn 200-250yards ( long shot for me. Through shoulder blade into chest,went ten yards n did moonwalk before dropping.last was big red stag 222 bush stalking range? 50ish single round into shoulder chest bang flop .

2024 red deer kills by me as far as I can remember

170 m .223 yearling hind asleep, shoulder shot, didn't move
200 m .223 stag, neck shot, bang flop
420m .223 hind, shoulder, dropped
400m .223 hind, behind shoulder, took a few steps
400m .223 hind, behind shoulder, took a few steps
300m .223 hind midshoulder, dropped
320m .223 hind head shot, dropped
300m .223 hind mid shoulder, dropped
250m .223 hind angling down into shoulder from high above, dropped
200m .223 yearling angling down into shoulder, dropped
300m .223 hind mid shoulder dropped
380m .223 roaring stag mid shoulder dropped
330m .223 yearling, quartering away behind shoulder, placed it a bit far back and shot again through shoulder, dropped on that one
375m 6mm stag behind shoulder, ran 10m
485m 6mm hind mid shoulder dropped
485m 6mm yearling mid shoulder dropped
90m 6mm hind neck shot dropped
100m 6mm hind mid shoulder dropped
490m 6mm yearling stag neck shot dropped
50m .223 hind headshot dropped
330m .223 hind shoulder ran 10m

No bush stalking this year for me.

No wounded and lost and no major cockups this year, so far. Longer shots on average than usual reflect hunting some different places to usual this year.

80 ELDM and Targex in 223, 108 ELDM in 6mm

Need to look at my diary. Everything is documented. 56 deer this year. 50-ish .223 and rest with 257R. Couple lost. And the odd cock up requiring a second shot to quell matters - surprisingly mostly with the 257R. I’m far from perfect.

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Need to look at my diary. Everything is documented. 56 deer this year. 50-ish .223 and rest with 257R. Couple lost. And the odd cock up requiring a second shot to quell matters - surprisingly mostly with the 257R. I’m far from perfect.

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What bullet(s) in the 257?

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Originally Posted by caberslash

What bullet(s) in the 257?

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100 grn Barnes non tipped

https://i.postimg.cc/gc8NSmFC/fallow-buck.jpg

Fallow Buck from this morning. 270Win. 130gr Speer. Neck shot 65 meters and dropped on the spot.

Nearly stuffed it up! Buck was moving back to bush on first light, I was over confident and went for base of neck as he walked, from my knee, because I didn't want to waste meat. An inch higher and I would not have recovered him. I didn't listen too my own advice when with young hunters, to always go for the shoulder.

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Originally Posted by whanahuia

https://i.postimg.cc/gc8NSmFC/fallow-buck.jpg

Fallow Buck from this morning. 270Win. 130gr Speer. Neck shot 65 meters and dropped on the spot.

Nearly stuffed it up! Buck was moving back to bush on first light, I was over confident and went for base of neck as he walked, from my knee, because I didn't want to waste meat. An inch higher and I would not have recovered him. I didn't listen too my own advice when with young hunters, to always go for the shoulder.

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Nice. But you could have saved yourself 75 grn of copper and lead and 35 grns of powder by using a "you know what".

Yep. But I believe there are some real advantages to using a single rifle for all your hunting and also I don't know what I will see on any given hunt, or the distance etc. I was actually looking for a Red stag this morning. This guy popped up instead. 50c extra is a reasonable payoff.

Month or two ago I had two fallow sitting under matagouri all of 150yards away. I had super accurate rifle and good solid rest.BUT wind was howling.one deer was arse on laying down and only shot on offer was head/ meck over its flank...other deer I just got few seconds as it layed neck out to peer around corner. I lay there for a good 15/20 minutes then got up n walked away. If shot had gone badly animals would have bolted into private land.hapoy to walk away.sometimes I think that's important.

Same area twelve months ago three reds right on edge of block,I carrying .223 and deer didn't stop moving away so initial hundy yards opportunity rapidly became 300 again I opted to not shoot for same reasons.if can't guarantee drop on spot when close to boundary I just don't shoot.