Thread: STAGS SHOT 2021

Not the biggest 8, but exciting in the tight stuff

Originally Posted by jono7

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Not the biggest 8, but exciting in the tight stuff

Still a very good stag, you should be happy with that one.

Originally Posted by jono7

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Not the biggest 8, but exciting in the tight stuff

Is that a Sika Hybrid ??

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Is that a Sika Hybrid ??

Cross breed is the word @Moa Hunter
They're both cervus

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Originally Posted by Mathias

Cross breed is the word @Moa Hunter
They're both cervus

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Both Cervus but different sub species ( elaphus and nippon) therefore Hybrid. Jersey x Friesian = Crossbreed. Jersey x Brahman = Hybrid

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Both Cervus but different sub species ( elaphus and nippon) therefore Hybrid. Jersey x Friesian = Crossbreed. Jersey x Brahman = Hybrid

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Is that a Sika Hybrid ??

Not really sure mate, didn’t photo his arse end, but was more white than cream/yellow. I wouldn’t say he had a massive body, was able to get both back legs and steaks in my 25l backpack. I’ve never encountered one, but have heard of them coming out of the area, so definitely could be. He was he-haw calling like a sika off his pads and did a circuit around me and came into the one I had gone back to.
I’ll send you a pic of the skull cap when I’ve cleaned it up a bit more, be interested in your thoughts
Cheers

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Is that a Sika Hybrid ??

Looks all sika to me. What makes you think it might be a hybrid?

Originally Posted by Huntn

Looks all sika to me. What makes you think it might be a hybrid?

In the first photo I thought that it looked different to what I would expect in the coat and head. I dont have any personal experience with Sika but I have a very good eye for assessing animals. A hybrid animal doesnt have to be 50/50, it could be 25% or 12.5% red easily enough. The Fiordland Waps DNA at around 60 ish percent Wap for example. I thought it might have a sniff of Red ? I am just interested in what people with experience with Sika think so I can add that to my knowledge

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

In the first photo I thought that it looked different to what I would expect in the coat and head. I dont have any personal experience with Sika but I have a very good eye for assessing animals. A hybrid animal doesnt have to be 50/50, it could be 25% or 12.5% red easily enough. The Fiordland Waps DNA at around 60 ish percent Wap for example. I thought it might have a sniff of Red ? I am just interested in what people with experience with Sika think so I can add that to my knowledge

Hoping they get a Douglas Score and run over the Withey score to check for whether there is conformity; that is the measure of whether something is "hybrid" or not - it's got nothing to do with some bloke on a forum with no personal experience with Sika saying they look funny....in spite of having "a very good ey e for assessing animals" - I'm sure if you read your comment again, you'll realize how silly that sounds....
Not a dig mate - just an observation that there is a bit of prejudice and skepticism around Sika with any suggestion of Red influence - rather than just saying: "Good job mate - I'd be happy to hang that on my wall."

Originally Posted by Nickoli

Hoping they get a Douglas Score and run over the Withey score to check for whether there is conformity; that is the measure of whether something is "hybrid" or not - it's got nothing to do with some bloke on a forum with no personal experience with Sika saying they look funny....in spite of having "a very good ey e for assessing animals" - I'm sure if you read your comment again, you'll realize how silly that sounds....
Not a dig mate - just an observation that there is a bit of prejudice and skepticism around Sika with any suggestion of Red influence - rather than just saying: "Good job mate - I'd be happy to hang that on my wall."

Appreciate the honest reply. My interest is in breeding animals and their hybrids and crosses, certainly not wanting to knock someone's trophy or un-wittingly make a suggestion that is unwelcome. I dont know if many people know but the incredible multi pointing that we see in trophy park Red Deer comes from Sika blood in those reds via Woburn Abbey (Duke of Bedford) stock. This is interesting from the point that Sika have a comparatively plain head, yet the addition of Sika blood can produce extreme multi-pointing