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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody View Post
    Access is key. Good and granted access allows various options to be used and exploited. Private industry has always shown initiative and pretty quickly identified economies. It is regrettable that govrtment has placed disincentives on several utilization attempts on rabbit and possum products over time. Also various restrictions on access. Some but not all landholders as well. The old mantra that trappers and hunters "farm" the wild animals is mostly untrue. One only has to look at the heyday of wild venison commercial recovery to understand that. Goverment needs to take a hard look at the wide picture, but dont hold your breath.
    Woody, the highlighted statement honestly does not take into account human nature and greed. I don't think it is so much a question of "farming" them, but very little in traditional trapping regimes incentivizes trappers to completely eradicate pests. It is a short-sighted business model...

    If near eradication and long term monitoring was part of the model, it might be a different proposition. The traditional regime also fails to address the issues around trapping remote and inhospitable areas, or those with harder access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Woody, the highlighted statement honestly does not take into account human nature and greed. I don't think it is so much a question of "farming" them, but very little in traditional trapping regimes incentivizes trappers to completely eradicate pests. It is a short-sighted business model...

    If near eradication and long term monitoring was part of the model, it might be a different proposition. The traditional regime also fails to address the issues around trapping remote and inhospitable areas, or those with harder access.
    @ebf. In some respect you are correct. However I maintain that the "uneconomic for trappers" areas , even remote areas can be economically completed after initial trapping.
    Here is why I believe this: Trapping of possums and mustelids in areas of populations above around 8 / ha are economically viable for trapping without any cost to the taxpayer, doc or ospri.
    Aerial 1080 was proven in 2011 to be averaging $57/ha. Today it is more and the "remote areas" are costing taxpayers and farmers up to and more than $80/ha. The operations do not successfully eradicate either.
    If the approximate mean cost of aerial 1080 @ $70/ha was paid to trappers, even perhaps in easier trapping areas as well, along with a monitored qc audit in place then I believe vitually all terrain and strata of vegetation types could be successfully trapped and at less gross cost than taxpayers and farmers are currently (and historically) stumping up via treasury and levies.
    The mindset and the self preservation of publicly funded agencies have long blocked this concept. Parts of Hawkes Bay Regional Council areas are an exception.
    When farmers realise that they have forfieted over a billion dollars since 1998 for little real gain they may begin to question.
    Bear in mind that 1 ha is only 100 metres by 100 metres. Evenbin really tough country a competent man can cover 10-15 ha per day. @$70 that is $3500. (5KM circuit).
    Assume that trap line is visited three times he still grosses $1166 /day. In easier country he can double that.
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