Thread: Stock on doc land...

So what's the story when stock get loose of doc land, free game?? Was 2km from road to doc boundary then 2km up the riverbed, only fence was on the roadside. Saw a pair of hunters coming out and they said there were another 3 or 4 right up near the saddle so another 1-2km up the river. Said they were making a mess and manure everywhere. Steep rocky riverbed so would have been tricky for them jumping up some spots. I saw 2 mobs of 3 had the cross-hairs settled on one as all I could see was black, then figured it was a cows nose not a goats!

I am a fan of free range beef, whats the story free game? The ones i saw did have ear tags in...

Nope not free go. Need to get in touch with DoC they give the landowner a time to get them removed. Quite a process to go through. The animals still belong to the farmer.

Might just do hat cos they are making a hua of a mess

If you park your vechile in my driveway, does that mean it's mine?

As stug said they still belong to the cocky

but do the unmarked offspring of said stock remain the cockies property???
my understanding is yes if theyre still with thier mothers but if theyre left behind after the cockies mustered up the tresspassers??

If a cocky finds ya with beef in ya pack well shit I can't write that here.

steady brads i thought it was unwritten law cockies never eat thier own stock??
only the nieghbours so on and so on;

They fly firewood into huts up here but won't help us fence the bush off....]

docs about pulling fences out and letting the stuff turn back to overgrown scrubby weed choked shite then moaning like shit cap in had for money to fight the pest weed/animal problem.
the formerly grazed and less overgrown areas of lake ellesmere are a prime example.

Tell doc not be tight arse pricks
They fly firewood into huts up here but won't help us fence the bush off.......
If a cocky finds ya with beef in ya pack well shit I can't write that here.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

Tell doc not be tight arse pricks
They fly firewood into huts up here but won't help us fence the bush off.......
If a cocky finds ya with beef in ya pack well shit I can't write that here.


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@BRADS maybe it's the size of your boundary lines as I know 2 farmers down here that called DOC and told them that they need to control their animals! Both farms have had their common boundaries fenced with the financial support of DOC.

i figured that they werent fair game, just slack of the cockie cos they have obviously been in there for months!

Originally Posted by 223nut

i figured that they werent fair game, just slack of the cockie cos they have obviously been in there for months!

What you want him to do?
Not graze his paddocks?
Spend everyday mustering the bush?
You'll find it's only a few winter months that they push anywhere.
We have many Kms of un fenced bush edge,
In the good years sometimes a bit more gets done but doc is supposed to pay half.


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Originally Posted by BRADS

What you want him to do?
Not graze his paddocks?
Spend everyday mustering the bush?
You'll find it's only a few winter months that they push anywhere.
We have many Kms of un fenced bush edge,
In the good years sometimes a bit more gets done but doc is supposed to pay half.


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wouldnt take much fencing to cut this little valley off. has a fence running round the forestry block adjacent to the riverbed i walk up. 200m MAX, dozen warraths and a few strands of live wire would fix it!

Originally Posted by BRADS

What you want him to do?
Not graze his paddocks?
Spend everyday mustering the bush?
You'll find it's only a few winter months that they push anywhere.
We have many Kms of un fenced bush edge,
In the good years sometimes a bit more gets done but doc is supposed to pay half.


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Was wondering what the deal there would be. I have to pay half my boundary fence costs.

If they have no tags or markings then they are not owned by anyone other than the crown, therefore it is my interpretation that they are fair game. If I see them and cannot see any markings and judge they are of an age that they have had sufficient time to be brought in by a farmer but haven't (say 2 yrs or more) Then bang

Hamish

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Originally Posted by HNTMAD

If they have no tags or markings then they are not owned by anyone other than the crown, therefore it is my interpretation that they are fair game. If I see them and cannot see any markings and judge they are of an age that they have had sufficient time to be brought in by a farmer but haven't (say 2 yrs or more) Then bang

Hamish

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So if I see your dog lost in the Ruahines with no tag and I judge you've had sufficient time to find it your happy for me to fold it?

Should add that most cattle (beef cattle) just have a little NAIT tag now that's been designed to be hard enough to see in hairy ears at the best times so I'm buggered if I no how you can tell in the hills.




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Originally Posted by BRADS

So if I see your dog lost in the Ruahines with no tag and I judge you've had sufficient time to find it your happy for me to fold it?

Should add that most cattle (beef cattle) just have a little NAIT tag now that's been designed to be hard enough to see in hairy ears at the best times so I'm buggered if I no how you can tell in the hills.




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My dog don't have its collar and tag on as it's noisy, but it does have a flea collar on and may have an electronic collar too, so won't be mine. But if i saw a dog would probably whistle then make my mind up, a cattle beast nait can be seen on inside and out, again with properly identified animals if no tag seen fair game. Guess it's anyone's call really. I have hunted an area where there are wild sheep, should I not shoot or are we only talking cattle here. Again no tag is fair game in my book based on identifying it properly as described. Now if you gunna eat the dog and can't see any identifying features then go for it, but they not my favourite snack

Hamish

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Originally Posted by HNTMAD

Again nobtag is fair game in my book

sounds like some kinky north island game you blokes mut play in the bush, I don't want to know..