Wouldn't matter where a cat was Gareth Morgan would still want ya to shoot it oi
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Wouldn't matter where a cat was Gareth Morgan would still want ya to shoot it oi
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Yes I have upset some on here. It is a good discussion, I don't pretend to know everything but I have asked the question of ownership and read some legal stuff and this is my opinion( as in what was put in one of my posts from this site in 2013)and I think at the end of the day any passionate farmer is going to defend there stock as it's there's.....if it can be identified.... And that is the line any farmer is going to take. Yes I know what is on my permit before you ask. I would suggest that most of @BRADS cattle are unlikely to wander many kms into the bush and stay there, Yes i would say there are the odd people out there that would shoot one under a km from a farm with or without tag ( even though I said I would early on, it is about distance from farm and age and identity which is where I was coming from). This like the 1080 threads that come up will always ignite passionate people, threaten your parked cars for the protection of their stock etc . I have no doubt I would be the same. Yes I would talk to people if I saw cattle many kms up in doc land, people like the farmers, doc etc. Certainly wouldn't be boom sorry if I were unable to identify the owner that's for sure. I know.others would. But if those parties said...nope not mine or if you see it shoot it I possible would.
Again passionate discussion
Hamish
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There was no way I was shooting the cattle in the instance that started this but I thought it was worthy of a thread...
I know a guy who was hunting in private bush adjacent to a sheep farm. He noted several sheep and lambs well inside the boundary. They'd clearly missed at least one shearing, and the lambs hadn't been docked. No tags. He left them, checked with the owner of the bush block, who gave him the go-ahead. Went back and took the animals. Seems fair to me in that example.
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Was the owner of the bush same as adjacent sheep farm?Quote:
Originally Posted by stretch
Hamish
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No, and to my knowledge the sheep farmer wasn't asked/informed.Quote:
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I think this is like dope patches, if you see them, don't mention it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
Ahhh good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by HNTMAD
Take no more than 10% off the top. Of either.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
The fact is some common sence applies. the above you meant to get a small game permit that covers those animals and you maybe able to use a suitable cal like a .22. If you shot a wild cat in the bush or a hare with the 308 i doubt DOC are going to complain, they prob say good job.Quote:
Originally Posted by matto1234
North canterbury doc land has shit loads of cattle grazing it . I'm sure the intention is to muster them all out . But can see how they could be missed on occasion . Tag or no tag I personally wouldn't touch them .
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they sure make a mess of the sub-alpine scrub thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Munsey
simple enough ask doc who cover the area your hunting
if its fair game they,l have a permit to cover it eg feral goose eg small game
On a similar vien, was talking to a mate who has a good understanding of road law (trucker) if you hit livestock on the road you can't pick it up, but if your following someone and they do he second car can pick it up! Guess it's to stop people from purposefully hitting animals. Quite a few around these parts and have talked to council and police multiple times. Next time I find them on the road the truck bull bar is going to be tested!!
trust me 223nut no one would purposly hit a cattle beast at speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
ive seen the result for both parties none of it was good.
engine in the front seat and a ton of bruised unusable beef:wtfsmilie:
@GSP_follower was more thinking the sheep, at 40kmph rather than a cow at 100+ there's a series of hairpins where they usually are anyway
Use to shoot the old sheep when I was down Taranaki. They all looked like shrek the sheep. mangy looking pieces of shit. didn't want to get sick so left them for the pigs. Amazing what a 22-250 does to a skull...
Wild cattle act a lot different from escaped farm cattle.
I shot an old bull once that had gone bush and been there over 5-6 years.Had a go at us and was coming back for more so we fed it a 280 grain pill.No tag on it but wouldn't have stopped me if it did have one as the damn thing was def wanting us flattened. Heaps of meat on it but only my mate was keen to take the backsteaks out. He reckoned they were yuck,shoulda made em into sauages.
Seen plenty of cattle in doc administered land in various places, i've spent most of my life working on farms in one capacity or another so I wouldn't drop any that were not trying to ventilate me but I know of a few who would without a sec thought.
if any animal is going to try and have a go at me its getting as many pills as i can put in it!
always wondering how the release of mountain lions or tigers would change hunting in NZ, when your not the top of the food chain things could get entertaining!