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Gidday Gents.
I'm thinking about getting a takedown rifle in 308. I'm hunting over a dog in the bush, so noise is an important consideration. Would a suppressed 308 be quiet enough on the dogs ears?
The other alternative is 300 BLK.
Most of my hunting is in the bush so range is less of a factor. I do like the idea of the extra range and power of a 308 over the 300blk.
Thoughts?
Dog won’t mind as long as it’s properly trained to a shot. The shorter the barrel, the louder the noise, but a DPT or Hardy moderator should calm it enough.
Good on you for thinking about the dog. A deaf or gun shy dog is no fun for you or him.
Get a 45 70 :thumbsup:
It will deafen your dog eventually IF you are putting a substantial number of shots over its head. If you can stalk past the dog or get it behind you that will help hugely over its life. But if youre shooting 20 or so deer a year over the dog it will probably be fine.
my dog used to be gun shy, Is fine now.
I only shoot suppressed when my dog is around. She has learned (by herself) to come stand or lay down behind me when shouldering a rifle.
Mostly shoot goats so I try to avoid shooting over the top of her where possible.
but the odd time it does happen.
I replaced my 300blk ar with a 308 takedown, the 308 is quieter than the gas gun was. I like it. Unless you are going subsonic both are still fairly loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chur Bay
You are welcome to have a play/shot with it if you are wondering about the setup. Its a bergara ba13 with vx3 and DPT.
I really like it. The 300 killed deer fine but IME is not in the same league of efficacy as the 308. I had a couple of deer that took a second shot with the 300 to hurry things along (both fatally shot just not yet dead) whereas the 308 at the same ranges is a hammer. Wasnt a problem for a quick follow up with the AR but not quite so easy with the single shot.
What length barrel is the new rifle? I was considering getting one of those modular pork sword things Ken is bringing in, tho they seem to push the 12.5" .308 which seems an incredibly short / loud barrel for a .308 even suppressed with something like a @ODL can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
@tikka would be able to offer some good info on hunting with the 300blk and a dog, he's got a pretty unique 300blk compact rig.
Thanks for the info guys.
I like the look of the Bergaras. @308mate. What are these other 308 rifles you are talking about?
Black Collar Arms Pork Sword. Come in 300BLK, 308 and other calibers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chur Bay
Run off a Remmy 700 or custom action/barrel.
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Modular pork sword? please elaborate haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308mate
The bergaras are a 16 inch barrel. Its a fraction shorter than the AR with the 12.5 barrel. about 800mm, handy as
It's a Remington 700 chassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
There's a mini action howa chassis for 499 if you're running 300 black, 6.5 grendel etc.
Or there's a chassis from oryx for around a grand I think. Howa, ruger, Remington 700 etc. But rifle action on top of the chassis cost
my dog is fine with suppressed .308,I do try not to shoot directly over her but its got to be a heap better than the unsuppressed days.
Bear in mind when you say dog is fine, she may be able to hear you OK... but it's dog hearing we're talking about.
That suppressed supersonic crack is much more damaging to a dog's fine hearing, far finer circuitry to damage.
Question to ask is, does she still hear a lot better than me?
I shoot subs ( or near as dammit) from my model 7 with 16 inch barrel and DPT can, with the dog next to me. Have even shot a goat at 60 yards with left arm securing dog and firing single handed.
Pup is all good with it, but I dont shoot lots of game.
I do try to keep the dog in close, but she is keen as, and will go and get the little buggers on her own if given enough of a chance
My dog learnt pretty quickly from a young age all on her own that when the rifle goes up to my shoulder she moves back to just behind me legs straight away, suppressed or not.
Cordite....the amount of shots she will get fired over and around her in a year are less than my older dogs wouldve got in a day shooting wallabies . the duck shooting we do will stuff both our hearing WELL before the few centrefires will... I use supersonics to shoot my deer/pigs for the much better terminal preformance BUT will slip in a subby if finishing animal off....its just easy to do and much nicer on ears all around.
My Dog is not that keen on the bang so when he sees the rifle come up or I get down prone he ducks in just behind me. Suppressed 243 & 358.
After the shot he's keen to get down range and find the animal for me.
Z
Ed to add, Shotgun is a different story, does not worry him at all as he is so keen to get to the bird he has scented.
I try not to shot directly over him but most shots are up into the air. Followed by the number of shots fired is very low. (I don't do a lot of game bird shooting)
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308 16 inch barrel. Had quite a few guns, this is my favorite
bush hobbits short rifle if ever Ive seen one..... bet the dog loves the deer it drops too!!!! to hell with the wee bang,you got the deer=happy dog.
Is that an aim point scope?
@ChurBay, check out the Kaimai rifles Dean Maisey builds. Shoots lehighs well for subs with 1:7.5 twist. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...be2c0b5cba.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...31dd894698.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...76d46e7538.jpg
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How do you find that husky on game?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiswede
Yeah not ya typical indicating dog. This was her first deer she found. So early days. She did a good job on this one. Her range is good. She doesn't look back much like an eye/heading dog, instead she swivels those pointy ears backwards and listens to what I'm up to. Will be going with a heading dog next time as the first 6 month with this one was a real fight. A bit much wolf still in her.
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nice rifle set up but that looks like a lot of scope for short rifle.
z
Yeah unfortunately I had just bought that scope for another rifle. It was too hard to get another purchase past the financial controller. The Ballistic Turret is awesome for changing between supers and the subs. I'd love an aimpoint or another swaro with a more suited magnification.
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My old boy was 12 in May used a suppressed 308 270wsm 44 magnum I tried to work out how many goats I have shot with the dog over the years must be over 2500 now his hearing pretty good for a dog with so many shots fired over him and near him
