Thread: Tahr control update from NZDA

Originally Posted by ethos

You smoking the Jazz tobacco? Tahr not in there native range? You don’t say. Paying gets you preferential treatment is the reality?wasnt meant to be like that on public land until the Nats conservation for profit. Lets get 5000 tourists to make it worse? Even if the nanny’s and bulls went for $1000 too, that’s 10 mill not 30 and it’s fantasy. Your appreciation of reality is a tad off.

Plus , they can still fuck off id rather have an animal free wilderness hunt than invest time and money getting in to the wilds and be buzzed by fuckwits with no appreciation of where they are.

Ethos, the reality of Tahr in NZ is that they are regarded as a pest. You may wish and desire wonderful wilderness hunting adventures with mature bulls looking down at you from every lofty crag... But when you wake up and open your eyes you will hopefully see that this dream is not reality, it may be your dream but it is not the dream or reality for the general public and DOC. They don't have a reason to want Tahr here. But if those Tahr are generating income for the country then that is a different story. I would like you to please read this next sentence properly and understand it ' Reality is DOC and the public don't want our great walks tracks and huts clogged with fee paying tourists and their walk guides either, but because they generate income they are welcomed.' Have you ever hunted overseas ? When you do you pay for a guide, this keeps the locals safe and the tourist safe. You might be interested to find out about hunting guide area concessions in North America.
When I hunt on public land here I always think Wow this is fantastic, what a lucky guy I am. I am grateful for what we have, I don't consider it my right. There might be a group of trampers on the track singing the theme to 'The sound of Music' and ruining my wilderness experience, but as a hunter - a minority use group I have to accept this as my reality.
I like to think my math is of at least an average standard. A bull Tahr is worth NZD$6000 as a trophy fee. Some operators will charge USD $6000. Throw the nanny in, a brace of Tahr for $6000 the DOC fee may be inclusive or added on.
The overseas hunters who come here are no more 'f...w...ts' as you describe them than Kiwis. For the most part they are hard working tradies and self employed guys out of the US who save up for an overseas hunt. A big attraction is a mountain fly-in, in a helicopter. If you want them all gone that is fine, we take them away and there will be no economic reason to have Tahr here.