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DOC aren't counting what they shoot.
Rumour has it that the cull has been stopped indefinitely. The loss of those 2 senior DOC workers has majorly thrown a spanner in the works.
Sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
Then they can just cull indefinitely as they haven't reached the numbers yet
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There's so much uninformed bull shit in this thread.
Start by reading this: https://www.doc.govt.nz/globalassets...ional-plan.pdf
And then this: https://www.facebook.com/nztahrfoundation/
What has been said that you find BS @Tahr?
Under the Tahr Control Plan 15 Oct. entry read:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
"For the purposes of this Plan, the numbers of tahr which are taken by recreational hunters who are not part of organised recreational hunting groups (as above) will not be counted as part of the 10,000 target for the October 2018-August 2019 period".
the waste in this day and age is shameful.
they shotgun them up at erewhon and use them dont they?
People like her that have a say are fucking the world.
Their ideals are out dated and unrealistic.
Who gives a flying fuck about the plants? There are areas they can grow with no fear of Thar browse.
Do those plants bring 50 million hunter tourist dollars to the country? No way.
They are just happy to cut their nose of to spite their ugly faces these moronic snowflake freaks.
We had to import coal to run a power station just recently because of their fucking stupid ideals.
To me there is no bigger fake than someone that happily resides in a city yet dictates conservationist ideals.
They forget this countrys identity was built on the backs of hard pioneers, miners, hunters, woodsman, explorers, farmers and soldiers. They are systematically shitting all over them now.
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And all these treehuggers want sustainable power....wind etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
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Saving the planet, my arse
Thing that gets me is who goes to the alpine areas of nz.... I bet hunters would make up 90% of those people that go off a track in alpine nz, and the other 10% are hunter that happen to be tramping climbing and not carrying a rifle
Exactly. Double standard idiotsQuote:
Originally Posted by Manuka
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The only true wilderness area is between a greenys ears. :angry:
Legs ???Quote:
Originally Posted by nelpop
never thought of that one:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
From my experience I'd think off track in alpine areas would be more like 60% hunters / 20% trampers/climbers who are also hunters / 20% trampers/climbers who don't hunt at all. Hunters don't have a monopoly on it - I know plenty of good keen off-track trampers and climbers who aren't hunters, as well as plenty who are. And whatever their preferred backcountry antics, the people who actually get out there in the rough stuff and leave some sweat on the hills are mostly good sorts who respect the place and each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
(At the bad end of the scale some trampers are vegan nancies who are scared to go off-track in case they get lost or dirty, some climbers think only climbers are worth talking to and everyone else should get out of their way because climbing is more important than other inferior hobbies, and some hunters are lazy pricks who drive/boat to a hut, get pissed and leave it a mess, and think 2 hours is a big walk.)
Probably depends where you go too, some places are more popular for hunting and some are more popular for tramping/climbing. I was a tramper and climber before I became a hunter as well, so I've seen it from both sides.
And just as bad if not worse.Are the collaborating parasites who work for these idiots and get paid to deceive and manipulate the gullible public.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
@GravelBen I may have used statistics to exaggerate...l
but,but,but,but,but,BUT you just dont understand, your to logical to co-exist with us greenies, cause we've read the books:redbullsmiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
geeze 'Welcome to the jungle' as Axl once sangQuote:
Originally Posted by nelpop
But its part of a wind farm, you make two and let them multiply :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Manuka
And @Shootm likes his job ;)
thats more like uncharted bushlandQuote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
lets not be stupid about it .
if the numbers are as high as they say CULL THEM
.but actually cull decide what you want to take out and bloody do it.
not just shoot them all and let god sort the good bulls from the cannon fodder.from whati know about helicopter hunting thier close enough to be semi selective.
its still fuckin criminal that they,l be left to rot on the hill cos the game meat indusatry was bummed to death.
we import coal from indonesia cos its cheaper than ours and now the bottom line is part of energy co,s every consideration.
If its anything like the legendary canada goose cull on ellesmere a few years ago its can be summarised in two wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by gsp follower
...politician speak -a mob fornicating
=cl.......r f..ck
@Sideshow thanks for posting that, gave everything a good summary
Just got given the latest UK Feild Sports game shooting, fishing & hunting magazine. :thumbsup:
Here’s a good article on the situation makes the Government look like total amateurs. Also how to spit on our ancestors. Attachment 100129Attachment 100130Attachment 100131Attachment 100132Attachment 100133Attachment 100134Attachment 100135Attachment 100136
Had to give this a second go.
This one might be easier reading @223nutQuote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
Like some of the facts in the story.
1 longest journey of an alpine animal at that time!
2 Ammunition supplies refused to supply ammunition for the cull.
3 Hunters trying to save an animal that is prolific in our land from extinction, that is caused by the command of a GREEN PARTY PARLIAMENT MEMBER:wtfsmilie: (Not really a like fact, but is a fact)!
4 She attend the Sika show looking for a publicity stunt, in where she would be abused by the hunting fraternity! She failed! We didn’t play the game she wanted and we came out united!
Guys make no mistake, the world is watching what goes on in little old NZ, be strong because this internet social media thing it’s sliding and people are getting stick of it.
Do as we did at my post 4! Keep that moral high ground! Be that good keen man/woman. Because at the end of the day the silent majority hold what you and I believe to be true. Not the minority that have snuck in on an under card!
Just had another read of that.
I missed this.
“But it is equally clear- by the department’s own admission- that no plant species has ever gone extinct because of tahr.
Critically, the Game Animal Council- the statutory body set up to provide advice on these issues- was not involved in the decision. “
I was surprised that guides have gone from a "scant dozen or so to 10 times that and more". Thats a lot of pressure on a limited public resource- this magnified by the fact Tahr will be culled back toward the statutorily agreed population.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideshow
Bulls worth $14,000!! Hope it doesn't end up like fisheries where shortages often end up in recreational restrictions.
https://www.doc.govt.nz/globalassets...-responses.pdf
There is some good reading in here to gain a little further context to the issue. I was a little surprised the population estimate (35K)doesn't include pastoral lease land.
Tahr have appeared on pastoral lease land well outside the feral range and DoC has struggled for access to control Tahr on these lands.
I can't decipher if it's 28 lease holds have Tahr outside the the feral range or there is 28 lease holds with Tahr?
Some 2600 Tahr had been culled already this year just prior to the eruption of Tahrmageddon- part of the annual population management DoC undertake. When was the ammo ban due to take effect?
Minister to GAC Chair- "I am concerned at the current high number of Tahr and have asked DoC to commence Tahr culling operation as soon as practicable. You can expect the culling operation to continue while the plan is being developed"
"Work with DoC to- bring the Tahr population back down to within the limits of the 1993 Himalayan Tahr Control Plan- and then maintain it once the herd is back under control" - this letter isn't dated but the minister also discusses she intends providing the GAC $200,000 government funding for 2018-19, so I'll assume this was written well prior to the eruption of Tahrmageddon?
Critically - what has the GAC done in the last five years in relation to the Tahr population?
Still lucky here in NZ despite the cull.
Yesterday my working day started at 3am.
Milked my 1200 cows, cleaned the shed, put some fences up, mowed a paddock, turned the pivots on, handed the farm over to my 2IC at lunchtime.
Drove up the river, shot 3 thar and was home moving a herd by 6.30pm
Lets keep it that way eh
Why would you want to make a paddock? Are you making hay or silages?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribrit
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If people did one requirement of a permit and reported to doc their kill sheet less Thar would be culled.
I know that certain minority organisations have our best interests at heart yet need support from rec hunters.
Most don't seem to understand they have an influence.
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Mowed not make should have gone to speck savers:cool:;)
https://www.doc.govt.nz/news/media-r...nAiFQRA7TaWjic
Tahr cull operations commencing this week
Wonderful timing... Just as I have organised to have the first half of may to go look for tahr... That's the way the cookie crumbles for me usuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by hotsoup
Was just about to pm that to youQuote:
Originally Posted by 223nut
Surprised they have waited this long.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotsoup
looks like they have listened to the suggestions, not shooting Bulls , and taking into account hunter and helicopter kills as part of the total cull figure. Lets hope that's how it is done on the ground.
I hope your right, but my trust in them is zero.
