Thread: Tahr foundation petition and court action

https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/rur...%99-west-coast

Few articles coming out about deer numbers lately. Guess “awareness” is being increased to help justify future reductions of the next introduced species.

Why are we not seeing or hearing about rec hunters not permitted to fly into National Parks for hunting purposes? But AATH are permitted to drop off clients in the National Park to shoot game? This is so wrong on many levels over recent years that i would have thought this question would get some air time with media with our main support network?? Maybe Willy Duley has asked this question but it was edited out??

That article was an absolute joke. Nothing but anecdotal evidence presented. More F&B tactics to bring up the issue of introduced ungulates in the media in a time where the minister is very sympathetic indeed.

Regarding The Project last night, I've emailed the producers to express my concern about both the accuracy of the journalism and the type of imagery used.

As well as my dayjob producing the Hunters Club, I'm also a freelancer who films stories for Newshub and The Project every few months, as I'm based in an area where it's cost and time prohibitive for them to send a camera crew from the big smoke. I've told them I'll pass on future stories unless they lift their game.

I've also offered them for free some more representative footage of Tahr in a more natural state, standing proud on a snowy bluff etc, rather than looking like rats being hazed from the air. That archive material is absolutely loaded in DoC's favour, and doesn't do us hunters any favours at all. Hopefully they accept the offer.

Originally Posted by hebe

That article was an absolute joke. Nothing but anecdotal evidence presented. More F&B tactics to bring up the issue of introduced ungulates in the media in a time where the minister is very sympathetic indeed.

This was in reference to Snowgrass’s article he posted too. I re read my comment and realised it could be misinterpreted.


But the Project piece wasn’t that flash either. Good on you Dave for your effort that you have put in for us

Originally Posted by Snowgrass

https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/rur...%99-west-coast

Few articles coming out about deer numbers lately. Guess “awareness” is being increased to help justify future reductions of the next introduced species.

Fuck me

tahr are an illegal introduced species

. They are illegal? So all tahr are considered criminals now then.

As for this

Ngāi Tahu representative Kara Edwards told the board the iwi was working on the tahr issue with DOC in a co-governance role but had not formed a collective view on non-indigenous kai species.

"For some of our Ngāi Tahu people, tahr and deer are part of their sustenance, but others are very conservation-minded.

"It's fair to say that tahr are not a taonga species and there would be a lot of indigenous species we would put ahead of them.

This is shameful. So these dicks dont want them because they are not indigenous and would prefer to kill and eat indigenous species of animals in NZ. I think it is time Ngai Tahu fucked off back to the North Island with an attitude like that.

This is shameful. So these dicks dont want them because they are not indigenous and would prefer to kill and eat indigenous species of animals in NZ. I think it is time Ngai Tahu fucked off back to the North Island with an attitude like that.[/QUOTE]

And started paying taxes like every other person/business does !!

Just a follow up from my email sent to The Project last night, this arrived in the inbox 5 minutes ago...

Hi David,

XXXXX passed on your message to me about the tahr story we did last night.

We're sorry to hear the hunting community is disappointed and frankly a little surprised, given that the story had far more time given to the hunters opinion than DoC - in fact we aired almost a full interview with a hunter and Kanoa went out of her way to speak about how beautiful and majestic the tahr were off the back of the piece.

But I do understand that visuals are important and we unfortunately did rely on archival footage from Newshub for the piece - we would love to take you up on your offer of shots of tahr for any stories we do in the future.

Thanks heaps for getting in touch and for such a generous offer, we really appreciate it.



I'll be sending them some more impressive visuals later today to refresh the library with.

Originally Posted by Mr Browning

Fuck me . They are illegal? So all tahr are considered criminals now then.

As for this

This is shameful. So these dicks dont want them because they are not indigenous and would prefer to kill and eat indigenous species of animals in NZ. I think it is time Ngai Tahu fucked off back to the North Island with an attitude like that.

Who has proof they were ‘illegally’ introduced?

And it’s not looking good for the honkies since we’re an introduced species...

WTF is wrong with some of these mouthy self opinionated types?? Grrrr..

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

Who has proof they were ‘illegally’ introduced?

And it’s not looking good for the honkies since we’re an introduced species...

WTF is wrong with some of these mouthy self opinionated types?? Grrrr..

Whats wrong with them? Either a lack of education on the subject or too long getting brain washed at university somewhere seems to be the common cause these days.

What would be an interesting stats is how many Maori compared to honkies go tahr hunting. My guess is not many, which is maybe why they want to get rid of them, because it doesnt affect them (and the fact honky introduced them).

Originally Posted by High Country Boy

I quite literally watched a stag cross the highway about 10km from lake moeraki about a month ago

Now if you had of been able to carry your rifle up the back window or on the back seat like the old days, you would have had that in the pot

Forest & Bird have just released this.

A BREAKING WIN FOR NATURE: The High Court has decided that all tahr, including bulls, must be removed from National Parks, and that DOC's work reducing the overall size of the tahr population doesn't need to be delayed.

Originally Posted by BSA

Forest & Bird have just released this.

A BREAKING WIN FOR NATURE: The High Court has decided that all tahr, including bulls, must be removed from National Parks, and that DOC's work reducing the overall size of the tahr population doesn't need to be delayed.

Not according to stuff

Originally Posted by BSA

Forest & Bird have just released this.

A BREAKING WIN FOR NATURE: The High Court has decided that all tahr, including bulls, must be removed from National Parks, and that DOC's work reducing the overall size of the tahr population doesn't need to be delayed.

There you have it in stereo and widescreen Technicolor: F&B's wet dream.

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

Who has proof they were ‘illegally’ introduced?

And it’s not looking good for the honkies since we’re an introduced species...

WTF is wrong with some of these mouthy self opinionated types?? Grrrr..

Don't forget that Maori are an introduced species as well. How are they going to reconcile that fact with their beliefs?

Originally Posted by Snowgrass

https://www.odt.co.nz/rural-life/rur...%99-west-coast

Few articles coming out about deer numbers lately. Guess “awareness” is being increased to help justify future reductions of the next introduced species.

I didn't know deer recognised State Highways and would not cross them.
because they would not cross Highway 6 to enter this forest.