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Hiawatha Thermal gear. Should we have... 03-10-2019, 04:33 PM
skyflyhigh Have you actually hunted with... 03-10-2019, 05:08 PM
Allizdog I think that alot of it stems... 03-10-2019, 05:17 PM
Guest The way things are going i... 03-10-2019, 05:19 PM
Kiwi Greg Thermal is just a... 03-10-2019, 05:25 PM
Micky Duck by same token...take gps... 03-10-2019, 05:30 PM
ebf Agree with Micky Duck. ... 03-10-2019, 05:35 PM
Stocky Having used one i do get your... 30-01-2020, 01:44 AM
Nickoli What's your beef? Given... 03-10-2019, 05:39 PM
bully Couldn't be bothered reading... 03-10-2019, 05:45 PM
Max Headroom I intend to buy thermal kit... 03-10-2019, 05:50 PM
skyflyhigh Yea they handy alright, I... 03-10-2019, 06:43 PM
Ham 7mm Personally I believe they... 03-10-2019, 06:13 PM
faregame Pretty sure the doc permits... 03-10-2019, 06:35 PM
headcase Its no no on Public Land... 03-10-2019, 06:47 PM
Sarvo I use all the time But 95%... 03-10-2019, 07:41 PM
Lentil Here goes!! Thermal gear does... 03-10-2019, 07:54 PM
DavidGunn Progress is what it... 03-10-2019, 08:13 PM
Friwi I know some Bowhunters who... 03-10-2019, 08:28 PM
sixtus There is a whole continent of... 04-10-2019, 12:37 AM
Allizdog This cracks me up. Shitloads... 03-10-2019, 08:36 PM
Hiawatha This is all interesting and... 03-10-2019, 08:58 PM
Allizdog Sorry mate. It wasnt meant... 03-10-2019, 09:09 PM
Hiawatha All good mate. 03-10-2019, 09:37 PM
223nut Just be thankful that thermal... 03-10-2019, 09:01 PM
Tahr The older I have got the more... 03-10-2019, 09:04 PM
Hiawatha Absolute gold right there as... 03-10-2019, 09:37 PM
Max Headroom If you want to fill your... 03-10-2019, 09:20 PM
MB What animals do you hunt that... 03-10-2019, 10:27 PM
Russian 22. that depends on who you talk... 03-10-2019, 10:34 PM
MB I agree. I wish the... 03-10-2019, 11:21 PM
scotty ok have read thru all the... 02-02-2020, 09:01 AM
outdoorlad The horse has bolted........... 04-10-2019, 05:57 AM
tikka I’ve heard of a WARO using... 04-10-2019, 05:44 PM
Tahr Facebook is groaning with the... 04-10-2019, 07:40 AM
DavidGunn A couple of years ago an area... 04-10-2019, 07:47 AM
headcase Its noticable round my way... 04-10-2019, 08:48 AM
timattalon My thoughts on the original... 04-10-2019, 10:09 AM
top of the south I think if they can elude me... 04-10-2019, 06:27 PM
RUMPY I would probably use it on... 04-10-2019, 10:34 PM
Frodo I can understand where you're... 05-10-2019, 12:38 AM
Hiawatha Tweed coat and top hat???????... 05-10-2019, 01:24 PM
Frodo Haha! I'll graciously take... 05-10-2019, 01:40 PM
Hiawatha Thanks. Works the other way... 05-10-2019, 08:20 PM
mikee Hunting is not a sport, just... 05-10-2019, 01:34 PM
Hiawatha Yep I hear ya. I was talking... 05-10-2019, 08:18 PM
sixtus Great comment! 05-10-2019, 11:01 PM
headcase With a quality Thermal... 06-10-2019, 04:40 PM
DavidGunn One could use those same... 06-10-2019, 05:45 PM
NITRO Pulsar thermion are clear as... 05-10-2019, 02:30 PM
Allizdog They certainly seem like the... 05-10-2019, 10:32 PM
headcase Safe if the shooter identify... 06-10-2019, 06:01 PM
Hiawatha Thanks. Works the other way... 05-10-2019, 08:41 PM
Frodo I'll bring my atlatl. 05-10-2019, 09:03 PM
Micky Duck same with shooting gamebirds... 05-10-2019, 09:00 PM
Gkp The thermal works well on my... 05-10-2019, 09:41 PM
Beavis Not everybody hunts for... 06-10-2019, 06:20 PM
Hiawatha Yep I hear you but lets for a... 08-10-2019, 09:22 AM
Hiawatha Just had a think. Although I... 08-10-2019, 09:46 AM
Bos My thoughts are that if you... 08-10-2019, 01:00 PM
Beavis I think if everybody was... 08-10-2019, 03:07 PM
DavidGunn Thermal gear has become a new... 08-10-2019, 03:20 PM
headcase Amazing that police are not... 08-10-2019, 04:09 PM
DavidGunn Police are encouraged to use... 08-10-2019, 04:16 PM
Allizdog I shoot what I can and still... 08-10-2019, 07:05 PM
308mate What's the best reasonable... 10-10-2019, 02:36 PM
headcase The best you can afford. What... 10-10-2019, 02:57 PM
canross The whole argument over... 11-10-2019, 02:30 PM
Frodo Very well said. 12-10-2019, 11:18 AM
Outdoors Thermals are heaps safer than... 29-01-2020, 04:44 PM
Spitfire For me it’s a bridge too far... 29-01-2020, 09:45 PM
Stocky Issue is your last statement... 30-01-2020, 01:48 AM
muka88 Hell yeah i love me thermal... 01-02-2020, 08:05 PM
Nathan F To answer the original post.... 02-02-2020, 08:19 AM
Cordite If we took that and ran with... 02-02-2020, 10:44 AM
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    I can understand where you're coming from, OP. Your stance is very 'tweed coat and top hat'; one which goes against the grain of today's thinking. Perhaps you could take a time machine back to the 1920's? And be sure to take a thermal with you.

    I agree that going bush with only a 'pack and rifle' (the basic necessities) and doing more with less, can be liberating. It's also a touch more sporting, and an effective way of building character - i.e resourcefulness and resilience. (The fewer crutches you have at your disposal, the greater the chance of failure. And it's failure which breeds perseverance, not easily-won success).

    I also feel that lugging increasing amounts of gadgetry into the outdoors, while perhaps 'convenient' (until a battery goes flat!), dilutes the experience of being at the mercy of something far greater than ourselves (nature). It may lead to a form of arrogance, whereby we believe we should always have the upper hand over it - i.e rather than negotiate obstacles by relying on our wits and being responsive to our surroundings, we should reach for a gadget instead and just cruuuise, baby!

    Does this mean thermal devices should be illegal, or that they're inherently bad; or that, in using one, you're somehow inferior as a hunter?

    I've met old school hunters (who learned how to hunt the hard way) who are now using thermal devices in their later years. They've already paid their dues. They live busy lives. And the thermal devices are just a way of tipping the odds in their favour. And there lies the crux of it - whether a method is valid or not probably depends on your intent. A lot of people are comparing thermal use in trophy hunting, with their use in commercial shooting, or recreational meat hunting etc. It's comparing apples, pears and oranges!

    Not all hunters are preoccupied with self improvement or acquiring badges of honour from the sporting fraternity. The goal may be something as simple as filling the freezer with minimal fuss, or it may be about capitalizing on your time (if you're a professional culler, for instance).

    As long as animals are killed ethically, and you're not putting anyone's life in danger, I don't think the method(s) are of much concern.

    Poaching has always taken place, and it will continue. Thermals or no thermals.

    But! There may actually be some merit in encouraging recreational hunters (particularly younger hunters) to go about things the simple way - at least to begin with. Why overwhelm one's debut into hunting with expensive buttons and freakin' laser beams - when hunting's unique attribute (which separates it from any other activity) is that it allows us to forgo the complexities of modern living and embrace a much rawer existence?

    Furthermore, we are living in an internet age where image is everything. It's come to my attention that the general public often pick up on the hypocrisy of recreational hunters claiming to hunt for the sake of 'getting closer to nature', yet they'll exploit every piece of modern technology available to them to kill an animal. Often unnecessarily so.
    Last edited by Frodo; 05-10-2019 at 01:03 AM.
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