Thread: Total lock down in 48hours

Originally Posted by Woody

The current statement by Ardern that If we dont do this, tens of thousands of New Zealanders may die" gives the lie to their rate of decision making.
I am self isolating from today but I have a niggling concern about mail deliveries ; how clean are all the letters, invoices newpapers etc. We are rural mail.

I wonder if you put them in the microwave for 20sec looks like this virus is very fragile. Just look up how long it lasts on cardboard paper.

This from Harvard Medical School.

How long can the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 survive on surfaces?

A recent study found that the COVID-19 coronavirus can survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The researchers also found that this virus can hang out as droplets in the air for up to three hours before they fall. But most often they will fall more quickly.

There's a lot we still don't know, such as how different conditions, such as exposure to sunlight, heat, or cold, can affect these survival times.

As we learn more, continue to follow the CDC's recommendations for cleaning frequently touched surfaces and objects every day. These include counters, tabletops, doorknobs, bathroom fixtures, toilets, phones, keyboards, tablets, and bedside tables.

If surfaces are dirty, first clean them using a detergent and water, then disinfect them. A list of products suitable for use against COVID-19 is available here. This list has been pre-approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use during the COVID-19 outbreak.

In addition, wash your hands for 20 seconds with soap and water after bringing in packages, or after trips to the grocery store or other places where you may have come into contact with infected surfaces.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

I wonder if you put them in the microwave for 20sec looks like this virus is very fragile. Just look up how long it lasts on cardboard paper.

This from Harvard Medical School.

How long can the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 survive on surfaces?

A recent study found that the COVID-19 coronavirus can survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard, and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel. The researchers also found that this virus can hang out as droplets in the air for up to three hours before they fall. But most often they will fall more quickly.

There's a lot we still don't know, such as how different conditions, such as exposure to sunlight, heat, or cold, can affect these survival times.

As we learn more, continue to follow the CDC's recommendations for cleaning frequently touched surfaces and objects every day. These include counters, tabletops, doorknobs, bathroom fixtures, toilets, phones, keyboards, tablets, and bedside tables.

If surfaces are dirty, first clean them using a detergent and water, then disinfect them. A list of products suitable for use against COVID-19 is available here. This list has been pre-approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for use during the COVID-19 outbreak.

In addition, wash your hands for 20 seconds with soap and water after bringing in packages, or after trips to the grocery store or other places where you may have come into contact with infected surfaces.

Both the PM and the Ministry of health say that three days is how long CV can survive on surfaces. However a link in the Ministry Website to a German study says nine days survival on plastic with 50% Relative Humidity. Who is right ??? I myself am simply applying a two week quarantine to dry goods groceries by dating the cardboard box they are in and placing them in the store room for later use.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Both the PM and the Ministry of health say that three days is how long CV can survive on surfaces........................

First, If you believe what The Minister of Hugs and sad faces says, Boy Oh Boy, have me and my bruver's got a deal for you.

A large bridge in our Largest city Auckland , good annual returns and today only, JUST FOR YOU only $50,000 in "notes and coins of the realm."
BUT WAIT, there's more, For another $25, 000 we will throw in a similar bridge located in the country of our largest neigbour, Australia,
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Second.......Coronavirus stayed on surfaces for up to 17 days on Diamond Princess cruise, CDC says

A link..... Watch the video as well .. https://tinyurl.com/wehhy58

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

First, If you believe what The Minister of Hugs and sad faces says, Boy Oh Boy, have me and my bruver's got a deal for you.

A large bridge in our Largest city Auckland , good annual returns and today only, JUST FOR YOU only $50,000 in "notes and coins of the realm."
BUT WAIT, there's more, For another $25, 000 we will throw in a similar bridge located in the country of our largest neigbour, Australia,
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Second.......Coronavirus stayed on surfaces for up to 17 days on Diamond Princess cruise, CDC says

A link..... Watch the video as well .. https://tinyurl.com/wehhy58

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@Kiwi Sapper, we need to get the message out to everyone to Quarantine goods coming into the household. If you re-read my post I am applying a two week dated quarantine. The Virus may still be detectable on surfaces after 17 days as was found in the study that you linked, and in all reality it may (RNA) be detectable in 100 years. What we don't know is for how long it is viable and can cause infection. Longer than the three days the PM tells us. Desiccating ( drying ) the virus on package surfaces should be the aim of storage

Originally Posted by Woody

The current statement by Ardern that If we dont do this, tens of thousands of New Zealanders may die" gives the lie to their rate of decision making.
I am self isolating from today but I have a niggling concern about mail deliveries ; how clean are all the letters, invoices newpapers etc. We are rural mail.

woody, if you are worried about infection on your mail etc, use a hair dryer on a hot setting for a few minutes ,the virus can't survive in temp over 26deg

Originally Posted by pope2506

,the virus can't survive in temp over 26deg

maybe you should think a little more about this statement.... you with presumably a 36 degree body temp....

Originally Posted by LBD

maybe you should think a little more about this statement.... you with presumably a 36 degree body temp....

Could be an ice queen?

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Originally Posted by LBD

maybe you should think a little more about this statement.... you with presumably a 36 degree body temp....

sorry .im incorrect there the virus wont survive in temp about 56deg

From RNZ this morning,

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...down-will-mean

"In level 4 are we able to pack up from home and drive to the beach house for a change of scene or do we need to head there tomorrow and stay there for the four weeks?

Yes. People can go for a drive. But they should only do so with others that they are in isolation with. And they should maintain two metres distance from others when they get to their destination and not meet or congregate in public spaces. So people can get fresh air and a change of scene. Any breach of these rules will mean we have to stay in lockdown for longer and our chance to beat the virus will be lost."


Sweeeeeeet

I just spoke with the ministry of health. Heading out for a hunt is fine stay within your group or alone no socialising and stuff but you must also stay within your region.

Originally Posted by Chelsea

I just spoke with the ministry of health. Heading out for a hunt is fine stay within your group or alone no socialising and stuff but you must also stay within your region.

Enjoy, and stay safe out there

It all comes down to common sense but that's what we lack in NZ.
Don't put other people at risk because you think you have the right to go hunting
Don't put other communities at risk because you think the roar is more important
Yep it sucks be time but think of the bigger picture here. The sooner we stop this virus from spreading the sooner we can move on as one in NZ
yep am lucky i live rural and can hunt on the farm but its changed my plans as well but i rather come out the other side with family and friends.

TAKE CARE AND DOESN'T MATTER HOW BAD YOU ARE FEELING THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN A WORSE SITUATION
If anyone is feeling down don't be scared or down sing out on this forum there are plenty people that a willing to listen or talk to

Unfortunately for those that follow the rules, not much public land hunting is going to happen.
Email from DOC below.

Originally Posted by Nick.m

Unfortunately for those that follow the rules, not much public land hunting is going to happen.
Email from DOC below.
Attachment 133692

Sucky if that’s true. Website not updated yet. I don’t get the chance to get out much, and had an overnighter planned this Friday for the last 6 weeks. Local to me. Same district. Was going to tent well away from the hut. Was hoping to get fill the freezer and avoid more time in the supermarket.

Originally Posted by Nick.m

Unfortunately for those that follow the rules, not much public land hunting is going to happen.
Email from DOC below.
Attachment 133692

Where is this from please? Nothing on DOC website about revoking permits that I can find. Is this fake news?