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Facebook already done - I have a personal page as well as a 'military' page (I was not allowed to have subordinates as social media 'friends' so made a persona of my rank into a page) and have already had many friends share the link to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Over 500 military mates have seen the link.
Well done 'dougie' I love ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougie
Agreed cam like I said earlier I wish that I could say other stuff I want to say but I wish to remain within the rules of this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
To hear that members have had media all willing to do a write up in a national paper is good but why do they want to pull the pin on such an article that needs to be bought to the attention of the non outdoors people. What a good way to keep a truly evil product in supply and use to line the pockets of the shareholders of the company that imports the stuff, that is to keep everyones mouths shut by disallowing knowledge of the true side effects this stuff causes to a dying animal, plus compensating land owners for loss of stock when 1080 has made it onto private land under the agreement of non disclosure of the incident ever happening. Keep pushing the media to get a story out there until you can successfully get an article published by a paper who is not scared to tell the truth.Quote:
I dont want to dishearten anybody but we have been to this place with the Editors of most of the major papers before but they always pull the pin on a story in the end.
Couple on my face book page now too .
Prime example of double standards WE are not allowed to use any form of possum trap that is deemed cruel but yet certain departments are allowed to inflict even more inhumane forms of pain to an animal through poisoning and get away with it. HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
Don't we all:P:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
"They" can get away with using all sorts of inhumane methods......sticky traps for rats mice is but one. Illegal for us thoQuote:
Originally Posted by hunter308
Could we work with, and support the Graf boys who have already walked a fair way down this path ????
Perhaps they would like to contribute to this thread?
Believe me '308' The information that started this thread has been doing a tap dance across the desks of every editor we think might publish the story for a few days now...You would think it was radioactive... they wont touch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter308
Well done Chris,I saw the images on facebook.
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Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
They have put considerable effort into gathering evidence/footage and got a bit of air time but were immediately discredited and phoo hooed as hunters who want more game.
No doubt they probably have the most comprehensive video library of this atrocity but more air time in this country could just come across as "oh not these pricks whining again'
What we need is a creditable internationally reconised scientist/biologist to take this to the media globally. And no doubt the graf boys could help with this with their extensive footage and local politics knowledge.
Hallo '7mm' The graf boys have already contributed to this thread the figures in photo 3 and 9 holding the cameras are the Graf boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
On there blogsite they do parallel autopsy's on a shot deer and one killed by 1080...Now that is something to see.
We have some great International Scientists working on the 1080 problem now.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Read here what they have to say 1080science
Thanks Scribe, I have met shorty and talked to them a few times now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
What you need is a new and enthusiastic reporter...
You are right there 'spanners' we never stop hoping that one day the story written by the enthusiastic young reporter makes it across the Editors Desk. Thats why we still do story's.... to be honest there is no lack of interest in the subject from new enthusiastic reporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
I read the one involving the maggot who shalt not be named, The rest will have to wait. Its not new to me and im not the one who needs convincing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
We just need to work out how to open everyone else's eyes with out being shut down before we get the chance.
Good on ya mate! Hope you win and keep just enough back for a good bottle of single malt as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
All power to you moonhunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by moonhunt
That idea coupled with the idea that Chris had to put on facebook are worth pursuing.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Too right Scribe, there is no equity in this situation at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
Damn Dougie, I love a woman of action. I hope it goes absolutely viral.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougie
Go onto Youtube and look at "THE BEER FOR THE NOCTURNAL MIGRATION - Tooheys Extra Dry"
This advertisement for Tooheys extra dry beer aimed at the Australian market was shot using my and a near neighbours herd. One of my hand reared hinds (Zoe) features prominently in the ad (looking out the window of the apartment, eating the burger at the pie cart, kissing the stag at the end etc). Imagine the hue and cry here and abroad if I deliberately fed her some 1080 this evening. In all reality, how would that be any different to what DoC and AHB et al do day in and day out?
The difference would be you would go to prison .Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Exactly my point Munsey. Where would be the equity in that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsey
Sidenote - cool ad Rushy!
Yeh, they paid me more to rent Zoe for a fortnight than I would have sold her to them for (let alone the rest of the herd). There is a chance of a second ad with the same theme being shot and since then I have hand reared a young stag fawn that could become a star. Bloody hand reared's are the biggest pain in the arse on the property until someone wants to pay you to borrow one for a while. Dougie that ad is a typical example of what not to believe when you see something on a screen these days. Not one of the stags still had antlers on when that was shot. They are all digitally enhanced. It was fucking chaos (and at times hilarious to watch) while they were shooting the various scenes as not one of the arty farty types had any knowledge of deer whose only instinct is to shoot the gap if you put pressure on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougie
Is there a facebook link or page for us to share?
I just linked to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointer
can you link the page in this thread too please ?
10,000 marching down Queens St, with 5,000 outside parliament yelling and screaming and kicking up one hell of a fuss. The media is not going to ignore that, and our arrogant govt will have trouble ignoring it as well. This is a get off your arse and get angry, in numbers issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
Hunters are there own worst enemy. We had a fairly successful anti 1080 march in Whitianga a few years ago. But there was hardly a figure at the march from the group most affected by 1080 drops in the Coromandel (the pig hunters) I bailed a few of them over the weeks and asked the where they were...They nearly all said..Aw we thought everybody would be at the march so we went and poached such and suchs block or the pines or some other bloody place.Quote:
Originally Posted by eltoro
I'd walk that mile down Queen Street to add voice to this issue. Maybe someone on this forum has some experience organising such a demonstration of civil dischord.Quote:
Originally Posted by eltoro
It hasnt worked in Auckland in the past. We had a march in Auckland after the Rangitoto/Motutapu brodifacoum drop in 2009 that killed so many seabirds, fish, and marine mammals. It was embarrassing how few turned up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
99% of Aucklanders are so divorced from their roots in the Country that they really wouldnt know a native bird if they saw one nor do they have any interest at all in poisons or where they are being dropped.
It is better if we continue the way we are. Local groups all doing their own thing and all putting pressure on the Government all in their own ways.
Thames Landcare ran a petition here on the Coromandel and had it presented to Parliment along with the West Coasters ...The Then we all appeared before a Parlimentry Select Committee... That trimmed DOC/AHBs feathers for them.
Join a group ...The fastest growing group in New Zealand ..F.A.T.E... Farmers against ten eighty.
The most effective protest still, is all you farmers and town folk put up a dirty big sign on the roadside saying what you think of 1080 The proliferation of all the roadside signs on the West Coast is causing all our tourists to pay real attention to whats going on.
My sign on the Thames Coromandel Highway says,,,,
TARGET THE PEST
NOT THE WHOLE DAMNED ECOSYSTEM.
I'm not the worlds most accomplished hunter but I've got lots of experience with activism. Working away diligently behind the scenes for year after year will not work. The cause must be thrust into public conciousness with as much force as possible and then kept there. Yeah you aren't going to get Aucklanders (in general) to rally on mass. But there needs to be a central point of focus. And all those who give a shit, and there seems to be heaps, need to get off their arse and make the effort. A lot of tough, manly, macho men to this forum probably despise the likes of John Minto but there's a good example of how to fight for a cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
How would it go if large roadside billboards were produced depicting photos such as those above in this thread of the heamorhaging suffered by the deer before they die, and placed around the country, especially on popular tourist routes (probably have to be placed on concenting farmland or such) to bring pressure on the government by bringing this horror to the attention of one of the big income earners for New Zealand. In a similar way that the Drink Driving or Speeding billboards bring attention to road deaths. Or the graphic pictures on the backs of cigarette packets bring attention to cancer caused by smoking.
This may overcome the medias lack of willingness to get involved in 1080 matters.
A heap of signs about 1080 were erected by land owners from Hokitika to Haast a year or 3 back.
All sorts of problems arose about sign size and regs by the regional council.
Heaps had to be removed the day after they were put up.
It seems there is always an answer for those that are pro 1080 and they get their way and pretty quick.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. So please forgive my sausage fingers!!!
If a group up in Auckland can erect a certain sign saying that the cure for cancer is... "not the current norm", then we should be able to erect anti 1080 billboards. Just have to thoroughly go through the regulations first, and make sure the whole thing is above board.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
Now there is an idea 12pointer. Even something more subtle like these to add a bit of variety and not always be so graphic.Quote:
Originally Posted by 12pointer
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Taking a lead from the Drive Driving campaign, I'd say it either has to be funny enough to go viral (which is remarkably difficult to achieve), or graphic enough to stay in their minds. The pics at the start of this thread should suffice for that.
