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Thread: We could have been hunting under level 4 afterall

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stug We could have been hunting... 07-05-2020, 06:09 PM
outdoorlad Doesn’t surprise me 07-05-2020, 06:14 PM
doinit Grief you'd almost think the... 07-05-2020, 06:26 PM
sometimes1 I could have gone to work and... 07-05-2020, 06:24 PM
ex-NZFS “The police powers under... 07-05-2020, 06:25 PM
stug Read this report... 07-05-2020, 06:32 PM
ex-NZFS Hell yes and Amen show them... 07-05-2020, 06:39 PM
planenutz Awesome. I smell some... 07-05-2020, 06:46 PM
Frogfeatures Succinctly put. :thumbsup: 07-05-2020, 06:48 PM
Danger Mouse Yep, business suing for... 07-05-2020, 06:55 PM
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Guest i just carried on doing stuff... 07-05-2020, 07:08 PM
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Sideshow Hey Sako851 thanks for... 07-05-2020, 08:21 PM
Spoon I can't imagine this getting... 07-05-2020, 07:11 PM
Trig ....pricks. That is all... 07-05-2020, 07:15 PM
mikee I wonder what happens when... 07-05-2020, 07:31 PM
Guest we were already succesfully... 07-05-2020, 07:47 PM
chainsaw They must be held to account... 07-05-2020, 08:04 PM
Woody Gov Gen should dissolve... 07-05-2020, 08:09 PM
Sideshow Are.......thats why they want... 07-05-2020, 08:31 PM
Guest Yea so those roadblocks in... 07-05-2020, 09:45 PM
Olmate Most open and transperant... 07-05-2020, 10:29 PM
Backcountry Bob It's easy to be critical but... 08-05-2020, 08:46 AM
sore head stoat Plus another. Wow 8 weeks... 08-05-2020, 09:03 AM
Allgood Yes, it is very easy to be... 08-05-2020, 09:33 AM
stug Remember right at the start... 08-05-2020, 09:05 AM
possum_shooter Ffs there are some people on... 08-05-2020, 09:22 AM
chindit Think about that poor family... 08-05-2020, 10:06 AM
Vasious Out of Curiosity, what is the... 08-05-2020, 10:30 AM
257weatherby Listen up retard - solo... 08-05-2020, 11:53 AM
vulcannz Mountain Biking: - rated... 08-05-2020, 02:13 PM
Sasquatch That's the feeling I have,... 09-05-2020, 02:42 PM
Allizdog Bingo right there. 09-05-2020, 05:50 PM
Hewie I thought I'd stumbled onto a... 08-05-2020, 09:37 AM
Tentman You did, you're bloody lucky... 08-05-2020, 10:00 AM
stug We live in a democracy and... 08-05-2020, 09:48 AM
Tahr Good on Stug for asking the... 08-05-2020, 09:51 AM
Sidney True .. but its seems... 08-05-2020, 11:32 AM
Tahr Its validating when you agree... 08-05-2020, 12:43 PM
stug Tahr we should now soon as... 08-05-2020, 10:04 AM
Sidney The point is that this govt... 08-05-2020, 10:09 AM
Max Headroom To me it's less what they... 08-05-2020, 10:46 AM
Tahr You speak from a perspective... 08-05-2020, 11:02 AM
Max Headroom In hindsight, correct. I... 08-05-2020, 11:14 AM
257weatherby Max Headroom has a... 08-05-2020, 12:07 PM
Tahr Like I said. Both views are... 08-05-2020, 12:32 PM
GravelBen But you accept that they... 08-05-2020, 12:58 PM
Tahr I don't think that that... 08-05-2020, 01:06 PM
Max Headroom That's the end of good... 08-05-2020, 01:41 PM
Sidney There isn't one. Muldoon... 08-05-2020, 11:15 AM
imaca This is why I admire the... 08-05-2020, 05:53 PM
mikee Matters not to me because in... 08-05-2020, 11:21 AM
Hiawatha Thanks Mikee. Nicely put. I... 10-05-2020, 10:47 AM
doinit It's gone well beyond whether... 08-05-2020, 12:24 PM
Sidney Consider it validation then... 08-05-2020, 12:49 PM
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Guest no nz gangs dont need to... 08-05-2020, 10:39 PM
257weatherby I can't like that, even... 08-05-2020, 10:44 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Like I said. Both views are legitimately held and the Court is about to decide. And Max's is equally as legitimate too.
    The Government don't make decisions in a vacuum and will be well informed but could be wrong. So could Crown law. The Court will decide. If the Gov's interpretation and approach is upheld, it means they acted lawfully - and then lingering dissatisfaction about the Gov can be decided at the ballot box. That's cool, because thats how democracy works.

    Until the Court decides, the claims here that the Gov has acted unlawfully is simply wishful thinking. But, if through the Court or parliament scrutiny its revealed that the Gov has deceived us or wilfully acted ultra vires I will be pretty pissed, in spite of believing they have mostly taken the correct approaches.

    But you accept that they acted against their legal advice from Crown Law? That they took actions that their official expert legal advice said were unlawful, and tried to hide the truth about it.

    So while it is still for the courts to decide if it was actually unlawful, it seems clear that their intention was to act unlawfully. They may have genuinely believed that action was necessary and for the greater good, the ends justify the means argument etc, but that's a very slippery slope...

 

 

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