you are right I have had red stag from roar that was fat and not to bad eating - but the nose test is the must - I open up the back steak and have a good whiff - manky leave it to feed the piggys - but some fat on back steak and just a venison smell yup all go - but sooner a nice fat hind- fallow buck seems to be another matter - they just smell bad in roar
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