Can I suggest maybe if anyone has any issues with the content around safety especially they go directly to the person? Not just chuck it on the internet to bring people down.
Can I suggest maybe if anyone has any issues with the content around safety especially they go directly to the person? Not just chuck it on the internet to bring people down.
Love the energy and enthusiasm in his videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by XR500
+ no bullshit or macho bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
Ill reserve my opinion re You Tube.
But for the counting down, i often do that with less experienced shooters to make sure we fire at the same time if shooting multiple deer so that someone doenst jump the gun and spook them for the other shooter
And for multiple shooters on 1 deer, makes sense as it increases your chance of a clean kill, 2 holes better than 1 especially if you arent gonna carry the animal out out whole.
To be fair there are plenty of so called "proper hunters" who are terrible shots. Just spend the day at your local NZDA range. I think a lot of "proper hunters" just dont tell you about the missed or bad shots.
Sometimes I wish we would just all agree to post no public hunting media, good, bad or indifferent. Just kind of feels like the safest option for the longevity of our hobbie.
If we highly edit what we post, cutting out the occasional but inevitable wound loss and gory bits, we risk being eventually called out as dishonest. If we show that stuff, well, we know how that'll go down, so it seems to me we could just quietly get on with it and share amoung people we know will appreciate it, friends, family and fellow hunters we actually know.
I also have to wonder how much trying to turn a hunt into film content would suck all the damn fun out it. Kind of seems like it would make it a whole lot more difficult to live in the moment.
Just to clarify, I am part of the reason people do post stuff up, as I often consume and enjoy it.
I thought the Forum ambassador was... Tahr but then again he does not beat his chest but just does it admirably by current posts. LOL. Saw a few deer earlier this morning dispelling the adage they dont come out in the full moon which was completely clouded over. Got a couple of hares so the job got done for the Taupo trout fisherman. Is hunting solely tallys or the intrinsic element of enjoyment whether you pull the trigger or not.
Yeah I’ve got a couple stories from
When I used to kick around in those circles, but they are campfire yarns not for the internet.
Anyone notice how quickly he changes hunting partners? Might be something too that
I watch his videos cos im keen to learn and shoot better at long ranges, and I gotta disagree with you. I think in most videos the deer he shoots at are generally dead on the same slip he shot them on and don’t go far at all. He does leave quite a few too. Generally if it’s a bit windy and they’re past 600, he leaves them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
Are there a few that he can’t find, yep, is he showing us the others that he doesn’t find, who knows? I reckon most are clean though.
Watched a few vids - couple of things stick out.
Shooting off/over Doc tracks ?
Doing recovery's but where's there rifles??
I hope not just hidden on the hill?? That's defo not what a ex military guy would do surly.
100% first time I watched I was not expecting to like it but he does some cool trips and seems a good bloke. I do wish he'd cover up a few spots though.Quote:
Originally Posted by XR500
In all honesty I'm surprised the Maniatis thread didn't come early anyone on FB would have seen his antics. He's a decent smith and the fastest turn around for sure if you bring him a pie and a coffee but he does hassle people in private about using or suggesting other products than his. Plus hes a smith that when you ask for 1 thing he wants you to do what he wants which is beyond frustrating sometimes. He's like many also very exaggerated making some huge claims about his products like strongest, toughest, lightest that anyone can look up and confirm or deny these claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
As for Rogee I'm not much to watch on the trips of his I've seen. Don't think meat harvesting makes for great TV unless there's a unique story or adventure but that's personal. I do seem to see a lot of wounded gear in the small bits I have seen. I guess it's not my personal taste and I'm not completely about the long range focus but he seems an alright bloke just not one I agree with a lot of the time but that's nearly everyone so can't hold that against him.
Enjoy watching all nz hunting content on youtube but a couple of things ive always wondered while watching rogee are, How many $ worth of gear/clothing is this fulla walking around with/in? Who is cutting the native to form his shooting "blinds" and what happens to his rifle while retrieving game.
Some more comments from me. i feel the need to try answer what I can as I have moved around in the LR hunting circles a bit although now i'm more of a bush hobbit when not on private land.
Where is the rifle and pack when recovering gear? Its stashed in the bush, quite common amongst some hunters to stash all but the minimum when doing a big recovery. not saying ive done it and not saying i agree/disagree with it.
Shooting off doc tracks? Cant 100% tell but i remember talking to a few Doc and Firearms officers a few years back about the definition of "shooting from the road/track" and quite a few said to me as long as you are next to the road/track shooting away from it into an area that you have a permit to hunt it then you are all good. but some said 200m away from the track/road and some were not sure. so I guess depends who you ask, my go to is to ask the local who will likely be the one that you have to explain yourself to. i dont know the law's definition which i was trying to find out.
Shooting over doc tracks? Haven't seen any videos like that, but yeah not allowed I'm pretty sure.
Who cuts the shooting blinds? I'm sure he might have done a few himself, however I've found many a shooting blind that has been there for many years and obviously well used in various forests up on the tops or across slips even in the kaimais, so i geuss we cant `100% tell who did what, just like guys who cut down natives around campsites and huts for firewood. again not saying i do it or agree/disagree, its just what i observe
We would stash rifles and carry the bolts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotts
Definitely agree, Tasmans's videos are great fun. Some really fun stalks in awesome country and some absolute monster pack outs (there was a vid with three deer / 87kg pack). Also backpacks some absolute nonsense into the hills like a pasta maker or wok hahahahaha, legend!Quote:
Originally Posted by XR500
I was impressed with his trip to Stewart Island in that little boat of his.
It's not a hunting trip if he doesn't bust out the mincer in the middle of nowhereQuote:
Originally Posted by HarryMax
How tough is he? Like no one else I’ve ever seen. Certainly has started the umbrella club too. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Seen Tasman carry out a 80kgs+ pack about 4k up n down to his car.I know the hills he was hunting on,big hills show no mercy.Fit n strong Tasman is.
100% Pretty much like some of characters on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
Managed to find Rogee on YouTube, if you were like me struggling to work out who this chap was he runs by the handle Rogee Productions.
Just watched his latest Tahr hunting trip in a familiar valley. To be honest I thought it was a great vid, well put together and a nice flavour of heritage. If the gut shot on the nanny is what people are up and arms about, then it surprises me. I call Pinocchio if you have never done that before, if not…. The old saying,,,you haven’t shot many if that hasn’t happened before.
Go hard Rogee!
I think alot of people see footage like this and go out and buy a setup from the shop ready to dial with ammo and go out and do terrible things to deer at range
But this 100% isn't rogee he's well expirienced and we'll practiced and does a pretty good job most of the time, no ones perfect
I'm learning the ins and outs of long range shooting and put 100s of rounds down range and shoot weekly at animals and targets, I think as long as people practice and don't overextend there abilitys on animals this style of hunting is fine and is alright to put up on youtube
I too just watched the Thar trip to see what it’s all about.
In terms of content, what you like and don’t like. The previous posts here reinforce my view. It’s subjective.
What I really disliked however was the advertising, every 3 min and fu*king Fresh Choice adds, or some other shit.
I didn’t finish it because I got sick of the interruptions. Not sure if it’s YouTube and the fact I won’t pay for the premium version?
Or he’s making a cut on the adds. Haven’t noticed it with other hunting video I watch. Won’t be watching any more.
I didnt read everthing cause it seemed messy but ill.say ive watched a lot of his stuff and found nothing wrong with it , no it doesnt always go exactly to plan but fuck thats hunting. Ive seen plenty of people fuck it up at 40 yards. Myself included. Dude gets out there and does it puts in the yards and chooses to shoot long range. Puts in the recovery time. As for the counting down thing its fairly simple , they both shoot one animal at the same time to maximise the kill opportunity. Didnt really seem wanky to me or stupid. And yes he is ex military. But really its pretty easy to go to another channel if its that upsetting.
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Farken classic thread goin on here...
Wonder how many posts were deleted in this comment section ������
You’ll get cut mate. Pull ya head in. :-) :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees
None. Or obviously at least one of yours wouldn't be there (about grooming - wtf).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rees
Rees comment lacks some context that no-one will really understand unless if you were a part of it or get a good explanation on the situation from someone who was. Grooming is a term used on the BOB page in their rules. It refers to individuals chatting or making conversation with other hunters with the intent of getting access to their hunting areas of private access etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Plenty of us have had hunts that haven’t gone well or shots on animals we’ve been less impressed about however it’s when hunting videos are posted online that show animals being wounded that I don’t appreciate.
Does footage of an animal that’s been poorly shot need to be posted or can that be left out of the final footage? Did that young bull need to be shot?
I would agree that the whole video gives an honest account of his trip however videos on YouTube are accessible by everyone, both hunters and non hunters alike.
As a hunter I don’t appreciate seeing footage of a wounded animal… I wonder how a non hunter views that same footage!
Rogee is also representing a number of companies for which he’s sponsored by so his content needs to reflect a positive image, he’s also a hunter making videos which also represents hunters, his content helps set a bench mark of what is and what isn’t acceptable just like all other hunting videos out on the net.
On a side note, I sometimes wonder if there’s too much pressure on YouTubers to produce content so they push boundaries or take the shot all for the sake of the video.
its the same thing as duck shooting videos
mate THREW out my decoys onto the water as thats the slow mo the videos all seem to shot..also the 5 guns all 5 shot semis and 4 birds come in and its mayhem gangbanging to drop them all,now Im not saying that wrong,its heck of a lot of fun but if your the one paying for the ammunition on a tight budget,yeah nah not so much... MOST fellas who have been around the pond a time or two will OFTEN drop two birds with two barrels,the classic "left n right double" is still an achievement...Im as guilty of loosing off lots of rounds if using a semi as next fella...actually fired all 5 the other day for 2 mallards and a pukeko..the mallards were both 1 shot kills the pukekos I was targeting so just stayed on it till it dropped.
but if all youve ever watched,seen shows lots n lots of shots per bird being expended,it sort of becomes normallised.... as has been said above it reflects on us all..its "seen" as how we behave .
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Originally Posted by stagstalker
And my tongue in check comment to Rees about being ‘cut’, another BOB move.Quote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
I got cut years ago, wouldn't share my spot :oh noes:
You're only useful until you don't share 🤣🤣
You're only useful until you don't share 🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Sika 8
You’re not wrong Nathan!
Hate to say it mate- but the grooming thing applies to most hunters I've ever met- or to be more accurate applies to more hunters than not. Everyone's always looking for info , and an angle cos people are lazy-looking for the path of least resistance to get what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
You are right, but as you know many were sent packing from said group for this, but the funny thing was it was a do as I say not as I do type outfit....Quote:
Originally Posted by ANTSMAN
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I’ve noticed that too. But I have a slightly different approach to others. I spend a lot of time looking for good spots to hunt because I like the adventure associated with discovering new places.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANTSMAN
Part of that process is taking to others with experience but one thing I promise anyone that helps me is that (a) I’ll never disclose a spot that someone specially doesn’t want me to share. (b) I’m very generous with the information that I have, I believe that I can tell anyone where I see deer, as the good hunters don’t need and won’t use that information and the bad hunters will never find them anyway. (c) I always do exactly what private property owners say, no matter how ridiculous that request is.
I’ve only got one really amazing public land spot that I found without any other hunters assistance and I’ve taken heaps of people there, I just ask them to not tell too many random hunters; but they probably do. :-)
And everyone loves a good yarn, the more bullshit the better?
If we didn’t, how would this forum survive?