Not that long ago I took my 243 and cheap factory ammo out and could not stop a hare with it. Every one was a runner.
So cartridge is not really apples with apples. Loads matter.
Seen goats shrugging off 7mm RUM and then picking them off afterwards with a 223 and 50gr V-max
Problem I have seen is a guy shooting deer with a .223 and they all drop like a stone. Then he puts three rounds into an excited deers chest and it just up and buggers off and he can't figure out why. They kill so well in the right spot people start using them carelessly. Not a "shoot the big bit" round.
They are very little.
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