1 suppressor for different calibers

Hi all, hope this hasn't been asked before.
I am looking at suppressing both my centerfire rifles, one is a 223 the other a 260. I'd like to buy a suppressor that can be used on both rifles.
I know that the best option would be a DPT and buy two different end baffles for it, but I'm exploring other options too, particularly ASE.

Has/does anyone use a larger suppressor on a smaller caliber (eg shoot a 223 through a 6.5mm suppressor), I know it won't be as efficient but how bad would it be?

Cheers

Yes done it plenty of times, there is hardly any difference when using dpt suppressors

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Originally Posted by Beetroot

Has/does anyone use a larger suppressor on a smaller caliber (eg shoot a 223 through a 6.5mm suppressor), I know it won't be as efficient but how bad would it be?

Cheers

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Yep, my one works fine on both 6.5 and 223 (obviously has a 6.5mm hole in it)

I used one for 308 and 243 which is a bigger difference than 233 and 6.5.

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Originally Posted by mikee

Yep, my one works fine on both 6.5 and 223 (obviously has a 6.5mm hole in it)

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Would you say there is a noticeable difference in noise reduction? Eg, the 6.5 is quieter than the 223?

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Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Yes done it plenty of times, there is hardly any difference when using dpt suppressors

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Are you saying to not even bother buying different end baffles? Just use the smaller caliber and will hardly notice the difference?

Yes use the larger calibre suppressor on the smaller calibre rifle

There is hardly any difference

From memory the difference between .223 (5.5mm) and 6.5 is 1 mm or 40 thou

half a mm (20 thou) clearance all around the 6.5 projectile as it exits the suppressor is normal, using a .223 in the 6.5 suppressor probably gives 1 mm clearance all around the exiting .223 projectile.

The pressure wave from the lower powder charge in the .223 is easier to slow down and cool as well so the larger calibre suppressor is not having to "work" as hard

Don't forget you can get two or more extra baffles just to make it epic quiet

Back in the day when I was testing our suppressors I found on a 223, a 30caliber suppressor required 6 baffles to have the equivalent sound reduction as a correct .223 caliber suppressor that normally comes with 4 baffles. A 6.5mm on a 223 wouldn't be as bad, and if you wanted better sound reduction you could always just buy another couple more 6.5mm baffles.

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Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Yes use the larger calibre suppressor on the smaller calibre rifle

There is hardly any difference

From memory the difference between .223 (5.5mm) and 6.5 is 1 mm or 40 thou

half a mm (20 thou) clearance all around the 6.5 projectile as it exits the suppressor is normal, using a .223 in the 6.5 suppressor probably gives 1 mm clearance all around the exiting .223 projectile.

The pressure wave from the lower powder charge in the .223 is easier to slow down and cool as well so the larger calibre suppressor is not having to "work" as hard

Don't forget you can get two or more extra baffles just to make it epic quiet

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Exactly with the 308 (7.62mm) and the 243 (6mm) and about the same charge there was not a lot of difference. So with a 6.5 and 5.56mm (with a lower charge) there will be no issues.

Yep I run same suppressor on both 223 & 6mm and haven't noticed any issues.

Thanks guys, answered that question quickly.

Can anyone tell me what the lightweight suppressors are like for mirage and POI shift when they heat up, compared to the not so light ones.
Eg an alloy DPT vs a Stainless ASE shooting strings of 10 shots over a couple of minutes.

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Originally Posted by mikee

Yep, my one works fine on both 6.5 and 223 (obviously has a 6.5mm hole in it)

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im running one for 3 rifles .303,7.62x39 and.223. most of what i read above confirms other stuff ive read too. mines just a budget thing presently.with new house inthe wings all spare cash is locked away for that.

I've done this test my self - smaller caliber through lager DIA hole and I agree with @DPT it is louder. How much that noise difference is worth to you is your own decision to make.

I've used my MAE Compact that is for my 6.5 & .243 on my .22-250, it works well but I want a smaller hole and dedicated suppressor for the smaller cal so am having another compact made.

I guess a key thing to remember is how many rounds you are going to fire vs the life expectancy of the suppressor, another reason for me wanting separate units.

I don't want to hijack the thread but has anybody done any research on whether carbon fibre is suitable for suppressors? I imagine pressure shouldn't be an issue but heat might be detrimental.

I'm just thinking about ways to reduce weight out front.

DPT?

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I don't want to hijack the thread but has anybody done any research on whether carbon fibre is suitable for suppressors? I imagine pressure shouldn't be an issue but heat might be detrimental.

I'm just thinking about ways to reduce weight out front.

DPT?

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Use a DPT with a 2-3 baffles removed

Could you get, say, a 6.5mm DPT, and a couple of spare .223 sections (maybe even including one stainless for blast baffle on an AR for instance), and alternate the smaller baffles with a couple of the larger ones?. So, 5 x 6.5mm for use on a 6.5, but when using a 223 you run SS223;6.5;6.5;223;6.5. That way you get a few tighter sections (gotta be better than just running 5x6.5 for instance) and that way you could accommodate for different muzzle threads too

You'd have to be very very very careful to not leave them mixed up and then try to shove a 6.5mm down it. Colour code em or some such thing perhaps

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Originally Posted by planenutz

I don't want to hijack the thread but has anybody done any research on whether carbon fibre is suitable for suppressors? I imagine pressure shouldn't be an issue but heat might be detrimental.

I'm just thinking about ways to reduce weight out front.

DPT?

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Would be quite labour intensive and difficult to layup a carbon fiber suppressor me thinks.
Probably end up being just as expensive as a Titanium one and have a shorter life.

A-Tec do a carbon fibre one, was having a read... A-TEC Carbon silencers

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Originally Posted by planenutz

I don't want to hijack the thread but has anybody done any research on whether carbon fibre is suitable for suppressors? I imagine pressure shouldn't be an issue but heat might be detrimental.

I'm just thinking about ways to reduce weight out front.

DPT?

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A carbon fibre suppressor can be done and have been done but wouldn't work with our modular design, our over barrels are 260grams and our muzzle forward are under 200grams, I don't think there is much more weight savings to be had no matter what material is used...

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Originally Posted by Tommy

Could you get, say, a 6.5mm DPT, and a couple of spare .223 sections (maybe even including one stainless for blast baffle on an AR for instance), and alternate the smaller baffles with a couple of the larger ones?. So, 5 x 6.5mm for use on a 6.5, but when using a 223 you run SS223;6.5;6.5;223;6.5. That way you get a few tighter sections (gotta be better than just running 5x6.5 for instance) and that way you could accommodate for different muzzle threads too

You'd have to be very very very careful to not leave them mixed up and then try to shove a 6.5mm down it. Colour code em or some such thing perhaps

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With only two of them being 223 calibre you would hardly notice any difference. You would be best to stick with them all being 6.5mm so they can all be used on both rifles.

The baffles are all engraved with the calibers on the side of them so that should remove any chance of them being mixed up

Yep I use a DPT 30cal suppressor on 308, 280 and 223. Works fine on all.