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I'm thinking of getting a Sightron SIII 3.5-10x scope for hunting out to about 700ish yards. Is it enough? Ideally I'd like a 3-12x but there aren't any decent ones within my price range of max $1000NZD. A 4-16x might be ok but I would prefer 3x as the lowest setting. Also I would like Mil turrets and Mil reticle but beggars can't be choosers. Any other suggestions?
Cheers
Norm PM sent.
Vortex Viper PST maybe? But it is a 4-16... Comes in mil/mil. http://www.eurooptic.com/vortex-vipe...br-1-mrad.aspx
or this: https://theopticzone.com/products-pa...mil-dot-matte/
Pushing your $ limit though... Its mil/mil
Really you need to look through a few scopes at targets at 700 to decide if 10x is enough magnification. If its a hunting rifle that you are more likely to shoot at 200-300 99% of the time then a 10x is plenty, but if its going to be used at longer ranges more often than not, then a higher mag scope would be a better option. A long range rig generally doesn't make for a good bush rifle, so having a 3 bottom end compared to a 4 shouldn't be too much of a concern...
Everything is a trade of a big scope dosen't make for a good bush rifle and a small scope isn't perfect at distance. I have shot deer at 700 yard with a 10X scope but it wasn't what I would call ideal 14X or 20x would have made the job alot easier. You need to make your mind up what size best fits most of your shooting and the other hunting you do will have to be a trade of.
Thanks for the options guys. I like the idea of the Bushnell Claw but I don't want an Illuminated reticle. What are your thoughts on 4.5x as a minimum? is it low enough for bush hunting? The reason I ask is Mark 4's 4.5x14 with Target turrets instead of M1 turrets is cheap.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/leupold-...fle-scope.html
They're not "real" Mk4s, incidentally.
But that range is fine for an "all-rounder" and they should work fine.
Ive got one and Im thinking of getting rid of it. Not becasue of issues with the scope though(its rather me not the scope). Ive walked mine out to 900y and back with no issues and I havent found a problem with the bottom power of 4.5 in the bush that much either
Has anyone tried the Sightron big sky range advertised on terminal ballistics research????
4.5-14x44 $1247
4 -16x42 $1150
If any good might be an option?
Glass was very good, tracked fine, just 18 moa per turn on little dials had very hard to define clicks.....was a few years ago so may be different now (4.5x14 SII BS SF)Quote:
Originally Posted by Terminator
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Originally Posted by leathel
Looks like the 4.4-14x44 may have changed they now have 20 minutes per revolution with 60 minutes total and 12.5 long with 3.9 inches eye relief
Might have had 20....been a while, loads of eyereleif...3.9 might even be on the short side....had to be mounted as far forward as I could then added to my recoil pad to get it right.....but that was with DNZ mounts and they have no step forward on the Mod 7's .... good scope over all bar the very very fine clicks. Not that cheap and being relitivley light the tube will not be that thick so make sure rings are lapped or go insert type rings with lighter scopes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Terminator
What do you mean? What is the difference between real Mark 4's and the one I linked? Is it just the turrets being target style rather then Tactical?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I was also thinking of getting the VX3 version of the same and getting the custom shop to put a target elevation turret and finger adjust windage turret but I think cost works out about the same. Once a mildot reticle is added.
Striker. How much are you chasing for yours?
Look at the weight of them compared to say the 4.5-14x50 Mk4 LR/T, much much lighter. I suspect they're basically a VX-III 4.5-14x40LR with target turrets and a black objective ring.
I see what you mean. 6oz (168g) lighter than the M1 Turret version. Although it does have a 50mm Objective lens vs the 40mm of the target version.
Compare it with a 50mm VXIII and see how it stacks up in weight, I guess. They're also significantly cheaper than the cheapest "other" Mk4's. By a long margin.
Probberly around the $900 mark or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Normie
Hmmmm... Mildot or Duplex?
Duplex
G'Day Fella's,
Probably a bit late of me to be getting into this thread but my two main spotlighting rifles, both have fixed 10x scopes on them.
The Tikka LSA55 in .222 has an old steel Weaver T-10, 10x target scope and my Rem 700 .223 has a Swarovski 10 x 42 on it.
These rifles are also my day time, short to medium range varmint rifles.
These scopes are just right, for the type of shooting/sniping that I use them for!
Hope that helps
Doh!
Homer
Didn't Tussock have a Leupy 3.5-10 on his 6.5 Lapua to start with?
Tussock how did you find 10x as a max magnification? I guess a .260 has a similar effective range as the Lapua so your help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Normie, if it's any help, I have two VX3's well one is a VX111, 4.5x14 LR that I got leupold to put M1 Turrets on before I bought it, IE the retailer, Once "The Optic Zone" and second time "The Rifle Scope Store" sent the scopes to Leupold for the work to be done before they sent them to me, neither store charged me for doing this .
The rifle scope store understood about GST.
Both scopes have performed with out a hitch.
It's a cheaper option than a MK4 but of course they are not MK4's, and you may well prefer that. The saving grace is I don't have to have that big 50mm lens
Thank you everybody for your replies. I think I'll stick with my original idea of the Sightron. I'll just have to get good with it. Thanks again.
Just check the specs on reticle thickness.... The 4.5-14 I had was good but different model may be different ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Normie
For 10 power to work it needs a fine center so it doesn't block too much of the target... I have the site to check but not the time ATM.... More drainage to do yet....And the bloody track came off the digger so have to fix that yet :XD:
The thickness at the centre cross hair is .69" on min power and .23" max power. Your old scope is .31 Min power and .1 max power. So basically twice the thickness. What do you think? Too fat, or will it work?
Bummer about the digger. If I wasn't at the hospital everyday for the past week I'd give you a hand.
mmmmm .23 is hardly fine but then if you do the numbers its not too had,Covers under 1" at 400 yards, 2" at 800. Not great for long range varminting but ok to take a goat etc for as far as you want. For a comparison my old 3-10 grandslam was .2 and it was fine for goats to 400. Reticle size is why I have not got a 6-24 SIII yet, It is fine enough but not as fine as I am used to on most of my other scopes as the are around .13
My 2-7 scope is .29 if you want to look through that for reference :)
I've found this website a good start point for getting info on target/long distance scopes:
Sniper Central - Scope Reviews
Yeah I will pop in to have a look. Thanks. I'll stop by on my way to the Hospital tonight.
Strangely enough I've found a photo of the Sightron 3.5-10X Mildot Reticle. This photo is with the scope set on 10 power and the house is at 1100m according to the guy that took it.
It seems fine enough for what I'll use it for. What do you all think?
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Reticle size aside, I would be pretty doubtful that the house is at 1100 mtrs.
Me too looks more like 4-5 hundy on 10xQuote:
Originally Posted by Proudkiwi
Mil ranging 101
Yep, if those are 1 mil spacings, and the window on the house measures 2 mils vertical, then at 1,100m it would be 2.2m high... I would say that its probably more likely to be about 600m, with the window being 1.2m high... (thats the house with the 2 windows on the 2nd storey - it might be another 500m to the back house, hard to say without something of a known size to measure against)Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
Doesn't look too bad..
Optics zone is the cheapest price I have seen that is in stock
https://theopticzone.com/products-pa...mil-dot-matte/
But Arcadian might be worth an email to get a price as there price is usualy better for sightron
Sightron SIII 3.5-10 X 56 Black Matte, Illuminated 4A, SIII3510x56LRIR4A, Rifle Scope, C/O: Arcadian Sales
Never emailed Arcadian but have got a few scopes through them.....
Have seen a as new one in Aus for $600 AU
Where? The Optic Zone is the cheapest I've found too. Does the one in Aussie have Mil turrets?
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Originally Posted by Normie
Yup...Have asked if he will ship to NZ :) Will send you the link soon.
If not it is definitly worth an email to Arcadian as they have been cheaper than OZ in all the sightron scopes in the past by a fair amount.
I'll flick Arcadian an email today then.
Cheers
