Is there a 17 HMR semi worth buying or stay with a bolt. Have a very large hare problem to sort, centrefire too noisy.
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Is there a 17 HMR semi worth buying or stay with a bolt. Have a very large hare problem to sort, centrefire too noisy.
There is very little choice of brands but work mate as a savage A17 semi-auto and loves it. Never tried it my self. I can't report anymore than that on semi-auto .17HMRs. A bolt action with a few spare mags might be helpful
I’d stick with a bolt personally, especially if noise is a factor. The A-17 definitely and I assume most other 17 semis are still bloody rowdy from the blowback action.
savage runs a delayed blowback but 17hmr is a damn high pressure round for a blowback semi.
Pretty sure the A-17 is the only semi left on the market due to this pressure issue.
I was loaned a Savage A17 for a while, it was a bastard jamming, mag would randomly drop out and inconsistent throwing the odd flyer.
Every manufacturer has a lemon & I think this was it!
I ended up buying a bolt action CZ .17 HMR & never looked back.
Thank you all for your input, had read online about the Savage, thought the grouping was excellent, but have to take more into account when suppressed.
That's a very good problem to have. JealousQuote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
Personally I'd go a suppressed bolt action. Plenty of folk using such a set up in Central Otago, including professional pest operators, those fellas shoot LOTS of bunnies.
Has he suppressed it As I'm left handed the blow back was a problem with a 22 mag Brno semi, even though I never had a problem with BAR centrefires suppressed with blowback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dama dama
Not for the poor bastard whose planted thousands of trees and can't shoot for shit, his wife said the cat can catch them but he can't hit them.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliehorse
suppressed 22 hornet or 17 hornet to loud???
Every hare in the King Country has probably moved to your place....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
@tetawa I have a supressed 17 hornet and 22-250 I can clear my schedule in the name of environmental sustainability and help you out?
@charliehorse, I have a suppressed 22 Hornet, 223, 222, these people with the problem have neighbors with guess what, horses. Before the problem became serious they all loved watching the dear little creatures hopping around, the love has now diminished.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliehorse
Gee, hasn't taken long, been offered a Tikka, Savage bolt and semi.
Have you considered sticking to 22LR? I've had major hare issues with young trees too, 10/22 using the "keep pulling the trigger until they stop moving" technique is what I ended up with. Cheap ammo, not too loud, handy little carbine. I am mainly at fairly short range, although it's amazing how far out you can kill a hare at with 22LR with a good shot. There is a degree of satisfaction shooting a hare at a range where you're aiming 3-400mm high and have fired the 5th round before the first one even gets there.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
I've seen hares do over $2000 worth of damage to tree plantings in a single night, no expense is excessive to get the right tool for the job.
Will start with the .22 but want a bit more range when they get a bit more "wised up" plus I need another rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Waimata
For a semi apart from the 22 LR the 22 mag is the only real option. The Rossi cheapie is surprisingly good its got a cam locked delayed blowback operation and with the hornady vmax should give you a150 yard point blank range on a 4 inch target.
You want the rifle as a tool to do a specific job and it will it's plastic, Parkerised steel and alloy, certainly not a rifle that will be a heirloom.
Ammunition cost is comparable to 223 but shopping around may get you a better deal.
There is a review in the guns and hunting magazine on it, and I had the opportunity to use it duri g that trial so can vouch that it's not marketing hype.
If you are looking to have a semi to solve your problem, "too noisy" wouldn't be the problem at the top of the list for a centrefire, would it?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
:P
@tetawa, surprised it’s not a goat problem.
I would say stick with the bolt, if you can get it suppressed than great.
Decent glass on her (yes her) and reach out and touch from a distance.
I’ve yet to test my 4-16x42 but with a drop chart picking off would be fun.
No goats, problem isn't local, 200 km away, will be suppressed for sure, will head north tomorrow and see what's on offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Survy
Do any of you own a .17 HMR Tikka, looked at one today.
Another one for the knowledgeable, difference in noise 22 Hornet against 17 HMR both suppressed.
having used both at night spotlighting wallabies I would say the .223 with good suppressor isnt a HUGE deal louder than the 17hmr and with varmit projectiles is every bit as safe as far as ricochets is concerned
Not owned one but sighted in a few for customers . Little short in the stock for me but putting a std tikka recoil pad on would sort that out.
Rifles were silly accurate ... Its a tikka.
This one had a std Tikka pad fitted, thing I wasn't keen on was the 3/8 dovetail, was tapped so maybe Weaver type base is made for them, retailer didn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clint Ruin
Have a little Walther 22 Hornet that is exceptionally accurate, thought of threading it, 1/2 the powder of the .223. The retailer I spoke with today stated the 17 hmr had a crack to it so maybe little difference between the two with a centrefire DPT on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Tally make rings to fit the T1 receiver .Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
I have used warne dovetail rings on all sorts of rimfires for years . As long as they are fitted correctly they are fine
Its slower than a 223 though, only fast for a rimfire!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
I agree that they have a remarkably sharp crack to them for such a small round though.
@tetawa..plenty of advice here...I have both ,bolt and semi savage HMR 17s...love em both ..the tikka,local comments are justified ,it is short in the stock,but that is easily fixed.....
For the job this round was designed for,its a a beauty,.....you can talk ballistics all day ..slower than the 223(Indeed,but still bloody quick)...Savage,I believe have manufactured a great product.My only issue,the early rifles had issues with the Mag(bolt action)not fitting snug into the cavity.....they have fixed this....
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The 223 is still impressive
I believe we’ve discussed this before,but for all-around,one rifle does all,especially on the small stuff ,Hare issues etc,..the 223 is magic
What's the deal with 22 k hornet? Is it a case of getting a 22 hornet and roaming the chamber, then fire forming 22 hornet brass?
Yes, but if you want to get the best out of it, make sure your rifle is not built on a rinfire action like many Hornets are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danger Mouse
Talking through my butt, I'd put my money on the .22 Hornet doing better suppressed supersonic than the .17HMR suppressed supersonic. Especially if you go for as heavy (and therefore slower) a pill as you can, with a nice long ogive + boat tail.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
@tetawa i reckon my suppressed 22 hornet is quieter than the semi 22 mag i had before it wellto my ears anyway 🤔
I've had many people think mine was a suppressed 22lr. Reloading makes it about the same price as 17HMW/22WMR.Quote:
Originally Posted by A330driver
Went with the semi after doing a bit of research and discussing with owners of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by quadhunter260
that SHOULD be quiet indeed....the crack is the bullet breaking sound barrier,less powder must mean less bang all things being equal.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetawa
@tetawa how did you get on with this hare problem?