Thread: The 22/250, what do you zap with it, what are its pros and cons.

I totally get the .22-250, had one years ago for a while, traditional old 1:14" twist. This would have been 80s. Blokes rave above them and why not? They do what they say on the box. Speed demons.

But they are an old, old design and even the most ardent fan would have to admit they're a pretty inefficient cartridge. For a 50gr pill, compared to a fast powdered .223 you're looking at roughly 10-15% more velocity for 35-38% more powder, and a whole lot bigger bang. Like real loud!

I do like them, but I also think maybe sometimes we can struggle to see clearly through our rose tinted sunglasses... you know, on the odd occasion. If I was looking at a fast .22 cal the only .22-250 I'd consider would be one of the fast twist ones, from Bergara or Savage (both 1:9"), or Ruger (1:10"). It makes more sense to me like that, we have much much better bullets these days, and the long, high BC .22s are right up there as genuine all rounders, but we can't use them in most .22-250s, which are slow twist.

But that said its fine to just stick with the tried and true, the old 1:14" twist and light, super fast bullets. The the old ways killed enough animals perfectly dead didn't they? I guess I just like the the wider range of options that today's faster twist barrels provide the shooter.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I totally get the .22-250, had one years ago for a while, traditional old 1:14" twist. This would have been 80s. Blokes rave above them and why not? They do what they say on the box. Speed demons.

But they are an old, old design and even the most ardent fan would have to admit they're a pretty inefficient cartridge. For a 50gr pill, compared to a fast powdered .223 you're looking at roughly 10-15% more velocity for 35-38% more powder, and a whole lot bigger bang. Like real loud!

I do like them, but I also think maybe sometimes we can struggle to see clearly through our rose tinted sunglasses... you know, on the odd occasion. If I was looking at a fast .22 cal the only .22-250 I'd consider would be one of the fast twist ones, from Bergara or Savage (both 1:9"), or Ruger (1:10"). It makes more sense to me like that, we have much much better bullets these days, and the long, high BC .22s are right up there as genuine all rounders, but we can't use them in most .22-250s, which are slow twist.

But that said its fine to just stick with the tried and true, the old 1:14" twist and light, super fast bullets. The the old ways killed enough animals perfectly dead didn't they? I guess I just like the the wider range of options that today's faster twist barrels provide the shooter.

Yeah, you are right about the extra powder for not that much more result. But hey, running a shorter barrel and get what you what done for cents worth of extra powder it becomes more of an academic issue.
The one thing I can't help is being distracted where my new Lapua brass is going blazing at goats on side of the hill and a few got away last time! Never a problem with .223. Have some PPU cheap to try out.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I totally get the .22-250, had one years ago for a while, traditional old 1:14" twist. This would have been 80s. Blokes rave above them and why not? They do what they say on the box. Speed demons.

But they are an old, old design and even the most ardent fan would have to admit they're a pretty inefficient cartridge. For a 50gr pill, compared to a fast powdered .223 you're looking at roughly 10-15% more velocity for 35-38% more powder, and a whole lot bigger bang. Like real loud!

I do like them, but I also think maybe sometimes we can struggle to see clearly through our rose tinted sunglasses... you know, on the odd occasion. If I was looking at a fast .22 cal the only .22-250 I'd consider would be one of the fast twist ones, from Bergara or Savage (both 1:9"), or Ruger (1:10"). It makes more sense to me like that, we have much much better bullets these days, and the long, high BC .22s are right up there as genuine all rounders, but we can't use them in most .22-250s, which are slow twist.

But that said its fine to just stick with the tried and true, the old 1:14" twist and light, super fast bullets. The the old ways killed enough animals perfectly dead didn't they? I guess I just like the the wider range of options that today's faster twist barrels provide the shooter.

Does it make more sense to launch the same or slightly greater weight of pill out of a 243 for a better result?