Yeah interesting chambering that 22 creedmore. As you say flyblown, slowly gaining traction,, already companys producing brass for it including ADG as well as Petersen....Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyblown
Yeah interesting chambering that 22 creedmore. As you say flyblown, slowly gaining traction,, already companys producing brass for it including ADG as well as Petersen....Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyblown
I was gonna suggest that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
Way more versatile and speed is crazy.
I had one for a while and loved it. Made a real mess of goats but I got hooked on the longer range game.
Do you mean hard to find new brass?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackson21
Always available, lapua 6br neck it down. Lasts ages, usually retire it after 20 odd fires.
Targets, long range rabbits, varmints etc. It was built heavy weight. 80gr about 3200 very accurate.
Started reading up about the 22 Creedmore but got to the bit where the Yanks are running in light frame Ar10's with good results, bastards...jealous and couldn't read any further
22-243Quote:
Originally Posted by jackson21
Dies available, as are dealers here and load data
The Speer 70 grain semi spitzer works in the 1:14 twist if you feel the need for a heavier constructed bullet.
They really work, but don't plan on displaying recovered projectiles - I never got one back. As a bonus, my Remington shot the 70 Speer and 55 VMax loads to the same place - no sight changes needed.
I've got an old Winchester 670 .243 that could get that treatment with a new barrel in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
Mate just picked up a bargain BLR he brought it around & said guess what the cal is I could see the grin on his face so guessed rite , he,s another 22-250 fan , looking forward to having a play with it doesn't look like it has had much use , when I finish work im heading into the wilderness with my 22-250 it,s not the smallest or lightest rifle it,s got a bit of a bull barrel but so sweet to shoot , must get around to chronying the load for interest sake .
G'day all I have a sako 85 22-250 with 1-14 twist standard barrel I run 55gr Vmax @3415fps on 31.6gr bench mark 2 '' totally lethal ''also I have a 22-250 Ackley ''AI'' improved I-10 twist I run 60gr Hornady sp for 3900fps also lethal the 85 has had 3500 documented down the barrel and maybe 150 undocumented it still shoots .6 consistently the Ackley has had 2400 and showing signs of wear and tear but still shoots .7 not bad for a caliber prone to barrel wear but as you can see if the speed is kept at bay then the barrel life is better both rifles were work tools but were looked after with the right projectile, right twist rate and in the right hands the 22-250 is a quiet capable caliber some indigenous Canadians use the 22-250 to shoot Moose and Elk not a bad effort for a small caliber I dare say it would be perfect shot placement in this case
22-250 is great for 400 M goats and varmints.
But you'd find that a 243 Winchester would be just as useful. You can get a 100 grain going quite fast let alone a 55 grain.
Might not be as interesting.
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Originally Posted by Max Headroom
I had a think about your question @Max Headroom, before just automatically answering "yes" just cos I'm a committed .243 fan. Truth is I don't remember ever using the 55-60gr bullets in .243 Win, thinking back the lightest I've ever used is probably 75gr.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
I've often thought about giving it a try but haven't ever really seen the point as of course I've always had one or two of the .22 rifles in the safe.
So I think @Russian 22. is right, it's more interesting to have more rifles! But also to concentrate on getting a specific rifle to shoot the kind of bullet it was always designed to shoot as well as possible. In the case of the 243 Winchester that was bullets in the 80-100gr range originally, and for the 1:14" or 1:12" .22-250, 40-55gr.
Where the gap closes on the .243 is with the fast twist .22s and heavy for calibre bullets. Looking at some of the new high BC .22 cal offerings in the 70-80gr range, the ballistics look good, especially windage.
A quick example.
.22-250 Rem (1:9" twist)
80gr ELD-M
3300fps
100yd zero
10mph wind, 90°
300yds: -8" drop, 5" wind drift
400yds: -19" drop, 9" wind drift
.243 Win (1:10" twist)
75gr V-Max (closest Hornady 6mm bullet to the .224 ELD-M)
3400fps
100yd zero
10mph wind, 90°
300yds: -8" drop, 7" wind drift
400yds: -20" drop, 14" wind drift
You're right on the limit of stability with the 1:9" twist .22-250 and the 80gr ELD-M, which is why I favour the new high capacity but faster twist .22 cal cartridges, like .22 Creedmoor. Just don't expect to get much more than 1000 rounds out of a barrel!
Might be easier to find a 22-243.
Another barrel burner but motors along nicely.
I like the sound of the .22 Terminator, capable of the heavier pill as well....and pretty quick as well.