Thread: .22 Subs too loud, CCI Quiets sold out, what about .22 shorts?

I'm finding the Fiocchi .22LR subsonic too loud even with a suppressor.

Tried to get hold of some CCI Quiets but NZ is sold out and no idea when the next supply will come.

So the local shop has .22 shorts at 820fps. Did anyone try .22 shorts for noise level and feeding problems in a JW-15?

Did some testing with @Moa Hunter a while back. He had some CCI subs that were a bit load in his rifle he generously let me try.
Had quite a crack and put it across his chronograph. Supersonic about 1 in 4 i think.
Tried them in his gun and they were running supersonic every one.
Tried 22 longs? think winchester called them zimmers. they were very quiet and albut a long rifle in length.
More luck in functioning than a short.

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Did some testing with @Moa Hunter a while back. He had some CCI subs that were a bit load in his rifle he generously let me try.
Had quite a crack and put it across his chronograph. Supersonic about 1 in 4 i think.
Tried them in his gun and they were running supersonic every one.
Tried 22 longs? think winchester called them zimmers. they were very quiet and albut a long rifle in length.
More luck in functioning than a short.

Yeah, there is a definite 'crack' with the Fiocchi Subsonics out of my 15" JW-15 barrel. Every time I fire one my bloody blood pressure spikes as I am contracted for rabbit control around campgrounds ie people not too far away.

The .22 Longs are not available at any shop in Whakatane, only the Shorts in packs of 100 for $24.

I wonder how accurate they will be....due to the bullet from a .22 Short having to travel a short distance before it engages the rifling. The long throat of centerfire cartridges with bullets having to 'jump' to the lands is usually detrimental to accuracy.
I suppose I will have to just buy a packet of 100 and see for myself...

Try eley subsonic hollow points. Ammo direct might still have them. I don't use them as they struggle to cycle a 10/22.
They are a bit slow but accurate and quiet.

Correction, they dont have any. Shooting stuff used to, reloaders supplies does.

https://www.reloaders.co.nz/shop/Amm...40gr+x500.html

Otherwise, try winchester subsonic

Have you tried cleaning your suppressor?
I've found with both my DPT and ASE cans that when they get filled up with crap it can cause some shots to go fast enough to start breaking the sound barrier.
No idea how it happens, but am guessing it's something to do with pressure build up??

In the past I've used CCI CB longs, they dropped like crazy so were only good at short range but they were exceptionally quiet and feed well from my dads JW15.

Yeah I bought a shitton of CCI subsonics a while ago and they go with a fair crack. Enough to put the shits up the armed police who were a couple of properties over at midnight one night when I shot a possum ( on a side note my Maxtoch made their torch look like a candle). So now I run Winchester 22 long Z at 770 fps. I bought a brick from shitting and pissing a while back and was pretty surprised by how pricey they were. The Winchesters are 29gr but are fine for possums

it could be just the rifle.
Moa's 22 was a hundy fps faster than mine with the subs for some reason. Didnt seem to make much diffo with the powerpoints, but i may have that mixed up.

I have used Winchester Rapid Fire Pistol Shorts and they are very quite, and do 800 fps. Problem is they are solids but you could drill them to make them more effective.
I use Winchester 40 gr subs and they are good in my 10/22 , reliable function and accurate enough.

As mentioned above, the stuff that smallbore shooters use would be quiet - unfortunately they are solids.

( has anybody ever had a ‘solids made into hollow points’ device?

I am shooting eley subsonic from a 26 inch barrel with a super thin suppressor, it is extremely quiet. It is very accurate. However, Personally, I do not need it to be this quiet, I actually prefer cci subs Because it cycles in 10/22.

Some good advice here... thanks for that
Looks like I'll try one packet of Aussie Winchester 40g Subs to compare noise level.
Failing that I will try Winchester 22 long Z.
All shots are headshots at relatively close range so solids would not be a problem if I find some target ammo as well...experiment time

guys overseas make solids into flats....apparently it ups the terminal end quite a lot.
head or shoulder bone shots ..solids be fine
the 42grn winchester subsonic is awesome......try it.

Originally Posted by csmiffy

it could be just the rifle.
Moa's 22 was a hundy fps faster than mine with the subs for some reason. Didnt seem to make much diffo with the powerpoints, but i may have that mixed up.

I two rifles and you brought along three from memory. I had an old Mossberger that shot everything exactly at the expected velocity. It was the EM that shot fast, some 'subs' were 1190 - 1210 fps

Originally Posted by mimms2

I used to know a few guys, ex FS. I think it was a 3/16th drill they'd run up the .303 FMJ milsurp to turn them into JHP. 5/16 and they'd splatter on any near-side bone they hit.
Chamber of a shot out barrel and suitable length for a drill-stop. Was a pretty quick operation.

Can't imagine RF would be too fussy. Aim for a few or 5 grains lighter than they come in the box...

I did much the same with 308 military stuff - only I had a bar of steel with a 3/16”(?) hole drilled in it.

Put the point of the bullet in the hole and hold the point against the bench grinder until it was ground down to where the grinder was just touching the steel bar.

Probably not resulting in moa accuracy but then I was bush hunting where a long range was 80 yards so ‘minute of deer’ was plenty good enough!

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I two rifles and you brought along three from memory. I had an old Mossberger that shot everything exactly at the expected velocity. It was the EM that shot fast, some 'subs' were 1190 - 1210 fps

yup. Thats correct. The CCI's had a bit of a velocity spread in mine but were very consistently faster in that EM of yours