.22 vs .17

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Originally Posted by Nibblet

Now thats my kind of thinking. And some people think I'm mad shooting turkeys with my 338

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Love it and 300 win mag on rabbits

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Originally Posted by Matt2308

Your kidding right? Are you meaning a .177 air rifle pellet?

I've had the .17 hollow points exit all sorts of critters.
The .17 ballistic tips are a lot more explosive than the hollow points, but I still wouldn't be placing bets on them not blowing through a starling sometimes!

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Magpie head shot 180 mtrs no hole in iron behind Huge head hole
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Myna shot on wall nog no hole in iron behind Umm heaps energy adsorbed for that one
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Yes have like three holes in wall still safe and sound but they were all misses completely not even wingers Dunno works for me

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Originally Posted by Kumoe

Thanks dogmatix. :)

Pardon my lack of knowledge, but where is elsewhere?
What places do you recommend?

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Reloaders Supplies, Shooters World, etc. H&F aren't so bad. Avoid Gun City, they're awful in every way.

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Originally Posted by RimfireNZ

I have a couple of 22's... but they barely leave the safe. 90% of my small game hunting is done with the 17HMR.

22s are brilliant for practice, but in the field the flat trajectory and power of the HMR makes it far more useful. If you're hunting, 70c vs 18c isn't an issue.

As some of the guys have said, get both :P

Have you considered the CZ455? That comes as a 17HMR, with a 22LR barrel (and you can get 22 magnum too). CZ's are fine rifles, I've had 2.

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And the 223 smokes the hmr at the same cost of ammo. So get the .22 for the cheap rabbiting then later get a 223......
And 70c vs 18c is an issue if your firing over 500 rounds for a day....

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Originally Posted by Wirehunt

And the 223 smokes the hmr at the same cost of ammo. So get the .22 for the cheap rabbiting then later get a 223......
And 70c vs 18c is an issue if your firing over 500 rounds for a day....

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+1.

He did say he was going to use it for practice to hone his skills with 7mm as well, lots of practice = lots of rounds = buy the 22lr mate.
Its not like its going to be your last gun ever, but it should be everyones first gun.

18c per 22 round sounds expensive?

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Originally Posted by Kumoe

Thanks dogmatix. :)

Pardon my lack of knowledge, but where is elsewhere?
What places do you recommend?

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The Dunedin h+f prices haven't seemed too bad when I've been there, Centrefire McCarthys had sharp prices. Taieri Arms in Mosgiel have a good rep but I haven't been there. Not sure who else is in Dunedin, Shooters World in Gore and Thai's h+f in Timaru have both been excellent in my experience but not so local for you. If buying online reloaders, sportways etc often have good deals too.

Gore wins on that list, and by a bit to.

Why are you people paying 70censt a round for hmr? This is from Quentin (45 south on here). even with freight its only 48 cents. Still more than a brick of 22 cci subs at 14 cents though.
HORNADY 17 HMR AMMO 500 RONDS | Trade Me
I will always have an hmr and prefer it over a 22 and a 22 centerfire most times, mostly because Im happy to pay 44-48cents and not have to give a thought to picking up brass or reloading and inside 150yd it just works. In your case though Id say .22 is the best option.

I paid about 11c a round for my last lot of .22

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Originally Posted by Tussock

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If you go burn through 500 rounds ($45) of .22 in an afternoon playing around, your smart and your shooting will be better for a lifetime. If you go burn through 500 rounds ($240) worth of 17HMR playing round one afternoon shooting cans, your are either very rich, or very silly, or both. You should have had a .22

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Or you are just a guy that has earned his money and chooses to spend it any way you want. Little different to spending thousands customing up a factory rifle and more thousands putting a S&B PMII on top. Just choice. Like the old saying goes "money dosn't buy you happiness but its better crying in a Ferrari.":D

.22 Finnfire

With rabbit shooting down here you are likely to burn through a lot more ammo than in the north. So for here something cheap to feed is much better, especially for a beginner. And frankly shooting a 22lr is such good fun and makes the longer shots more of a challenge. I've learned heaps shooting it.

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Originally Posted by Tussock

WHERE!

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:)

Then i will jump on it and keep it here for you, keep your eyes open.

I don't care, i will use it often enough

They made a Hunter, Varmint and Target model.

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Originally Posted by Tussock

I would definitely spend what I have again in a heart beat.

No way in hell I would advise a beginner to do it.

Not sure how many people I know who got talked into something that put performance ahead of economy as a beginner, then ended up not using it enough because of the cost.

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If you read my earlier post I was also calling the .22 the better option for the OP. My last comment was in defence of us aparently "rich or very silly" people that like to shoot an hmr at cans and rocks.

Well after all the info and help given, I've got an enquiry about the combination CZ455 .17 and .22 with reloaders. Just to see what a left-handed version will cost.
Getting both for an extra $200 or so sounds like a real option.

Thanks for the info guys (and possibly girls..) :)

According to this image ( http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/201...455-FS_002.jpg ) the scope attaches to the barrel, so two relatively cheap scopes would be the way to go I think...

And just as I say that, Dan from reloaders confirms that the CZ455 does not have a left-handed option.
Blast and Darn!

Back to the drawing board. Boo.

Buy a left-handed CZ452 in .22lr, shoot it a heap.

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Originally Posted by gimp

Buy a left-handed CZ452 in .22lr, shoot it a heap.

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That is looking to be the most likely option, yes.

If you're smart, you can get a lot out of a .22lr.

I'm hoping that I can. Will need a lot of practise though. :)

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Originally Posted by Kumoe

I'm hoping that I can. Will need a lot of practise though. :)

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Gimp will say practice doesn't make perfect,perfect practice makes pretty good.

I won't argue that but will say any practice is better than none.

After last weekendS show in front of a forum member i need some practise, been a long time since i missed anything at off hand ranges.


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