Thread: 270 in a 20in barrel or 308 in 18in barrel

OK I will bite.
IF you can launch the 165 at 2700fps you will have 1414ftlbs at 400 and 1190 at 500
a 150 launched at2800 is plurry near identicle figures

now a .4515 calibre 240grn projectile leaving muzzle at 900fps has 432ftlbs energy AT MUZZLE....412ftlbs at 25 yards
even launched at 1600fps it only just makes ..oops nope it doesnt it only has1364ftlbs at muzzle and 1191 at 25yards.

the mighty .270w
if you launch a 140grn at 3000fps(which many claim to do)has 1545ftlbs at 400 and1312ftlbs at 500 yards.
if you launch a 150grn at 2800fps....................................has 1450ftlbs '' " " 1235 " " " "

so the factory 145grn superpreformance will more than likely sit in the middle

best you stop using the .44 magnum if you BELIEVE its unethical......

stones,glasshouses etc etc etc

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

OK I will bite.
IF you can launch the 165 at 2700fps you will have 1414ftlbs at 400 and 1190 at 500
a 150 launched at2800 is plurry near identicle figures

now a .4515 calibre 240grn projectile leaving muzzle at 900fps has 432ftlbs energy AT MUZZLE....412ftlbs at 25 yards
even launched at 1600fps it only just makes ..oops nope it doesnt it only has1364ftlbs at muzzle and 1191 at 25yards.

the mighty .270w
if you launch a 140grn at 3000fps(which many claim to do)has 1545ftlbs at 400 and1312ftlbs at 500 yards.
if you launch a 150grn at 2800fps....................................has 1450ftlbs '' " " 1235 " " " "

so the factory 145grn superpreformance will more than likely sit in the middle

best you stop using the .44 magnum if you BELIEVE its unethical......

stones,glasshouses etc etc etc

So you have confirmed my point ( unstated till now) that the 308 and 270 are only 400 metre guns using the best scenario of full length barrel and optimum load. They are not 500 metre guns.
Further than that and it needs a step up in bullet weight and velocity, to a saum or wsm etc
And whats this 'high shoulder at long range' aiming point ? Worst place to shoot them when velocity is dropping off unless you mean the spine like a high base of neck shot, even that is a fluke

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

So you have confirmed my point ( unstated till now) that the 308 and 270 are only 400 metre guns using the best scenario of full length barrel and optimum load. They are not 500 metre guns.
Further than that and it needs a step up in bullet weight and velocity, to a saum or wsm etc
And whats this 'high shoulder at long range' aiming point ? Worst place to shoot them when velocity is dropping off unless you mean the spine like a high base of neck shot, even that is a fluke

so you have sold the 44 magnum then???? stones/glass houses

aiming high on shoulder...NOT FOR high shoulder allows bullet to drop into chest destroying lungs etc the ideal shot placement under 350 yards to anchor animal...

no I havent confirmed your bias at all...far from it.....

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

so you have sold the 44 magnum then???? stones/glass houses

aiming high on shoulder...NOT FOR high shoulder allows bullet to drop into chest destroying lungs etc the ideal shot placement under 350 yards to anchor animal...

no I havent confirmed your bias at all...far from it.....

Would you like to buy it ? Open to offers.

Aiming for the shoulder at long range 'allows the bullet to drop into the leg' resulting in a wounded lost suffering animal