Thread: 270 in a 20in barrel or 308 in 18in barrel

@Moa Hunter cheers for calling me a rich prick also might be half right.

I also have a problem with people using energy numbers to calculate how far they can shoot animals.
Because the energy is largely irrelevant.
What is relevant is if the impact not muzzle velocity is enough for the projectile to have good terminal effect.

I also have a short 308 and wouldn't hesitate to shoot a big red at 500y with it if the shot was on. But I wouldn't be using a Barnes 130ttsx because it's just not a suitable projectile for that.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

@Moa Hunter cheers for calling me a rich prick also might be half right.

I also have a problem with people using energy numbers to calculate how far they can shoot animals.
Because the energy is largely irrelevant.
What is relevant is if the impact not muzzle velocity is enough for the projectile to have good terminal effect.

I also have a short 308 and wouldn't hesitate to shoot a big red at 500y with it if the shot was on. But I wouldn't be using a Barnes 130ttsx because it's just not a suitable projectile for that.

I know what I'll call you and stagstalker now, 'Dedicated followers of fashion'. https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rc...KBHSFLow_lYUnB But on a serious note, for every story of successful long range 308, 270, 243, 7mo8 there are plenty of 'It looked like a hit but we searched for ages and couldnt find blood so it must have been a miss' stories. @stug put up a link to a South African ( not a good day to raise this I concede) safari park operator discussing ethical shooting. His conclusion was that the Heart was the best aiming point because the animal was always secured and could only run a certain distance before expiring

a heart shot animal can run up to 100 yards before expiring....even a hare hit with a .22lr can go 50-75 yards thus hit...and if you did the maths that like hitting a deer with half a pound of lead......

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I know what I'll call you and stagstalker now, 'Dedicated followers of fashion'. https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rc...KBHSFLow_lYUnB But on a serious note, for every story of successful long range 308, 270, 243, 7mo8 there are plenty of 'It looked like a hit but we searched for ages and couldnt find blood so it must have been a miss' stories. @stug put up a link to a South African ( not a good day to raise this I concede) safari park operator discussing ethical shooting. His conclusion was that the Heart was the best aiming point because the animal was always secured and could only run a certain distance before expiring

That's the funnyest shit I've read all week!

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

@stug put up a link to a South African ( not a good day to raise this I concede) safari park operator discussing ethical shooting. His conclusion was that the Heart was the best aiming point because the animal was always secured and could only run a certain distance before expiring

Interesting conclusion from the Saffa. Personally, of all the common aim points, a heart shot is about my least favoured as there’s a fair chance the animal will run a considerable distance despite being dead on it’s feet, and might be difficult to find (or straight out lost). You don’t have that problem if you hit them in the scapula or hilar zone

But probably not too much of an issue on the Highveld when you have expert trackers at your disposal, and less cover to lose animals in relative to what we have in parts of our country

Originally Posted by 7.62

Interesting conclusion from the Saffa. Personally, of all the common aim points, a heart shot is about my least favoured as there’s a fair chance the animal will run a considerable distance despite being dead on it’s feet, and might be difficult to find (or straight out lost). You don’t have that problem if you hit them in the scapula or hilar zone

But probably not too much of an issue on the Highveld when you have expert trackers at your disposal, and less cover to lose animals in relative to what we have in parts of our country

I agree with you on hits to Hilar. I have seen these 'Centre shoulder, High shoulder' shots go wrong. Animals hit in the top of the lungs or top of the shoulder broken. I was surprised by the Saffa's conclusion until I thought about it. A shot in the heart is a dead animal that will always die humanely within 50 - 80 metres.