The 270 Guys - they are a changin'

For my sins I volunteer to open our local range for sighting in (a new venture for our "NRA" style range, a fairly innovative move for us fudds)

Its not really well patronised, which is good because there's not enough of me to handle any more than one or two casual shooters who have to be gently coached into following our range standing orders.

I've been a range officer (not continuously) for dammed close to 40 years. When I first started the guys would rock up with a nice scoped rifle and a packet of ammo and proceed to waste most of it, often going off with a flinch and not too much on paper. And haha as I recall the worst offenders were those with 270's.

Now I have to eat humble pie, over the last month I've had two guys rock up with 270's (one with a can and one without) and dammit, both rifles shot extremely well, and even better, the guys shot them well, both went home with perfectly zeroed rifles without using much ammo!.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes...............:thumbsup:

But a blind squirrel couldn't shoot a 270.

Remember thirty years ago telling an older guy at the range that my 270 was shooting an inch to the right so needed adjusting. He scoffed at me and told me I and the rifle wouldn't shoot straight enough to know that. So I showed the target to him. It grouped .75 MOA consistently which back then was pretty good. He wandered off to bother someone else without apologizing. Only time I ever noticed the recoil on mine was when I used souped up 150gns in it. Ah those were the days, when 270s with a 4x scope were what you used for longer shooting (up to 300m) and everything else was a 308 or 7x57. And people wore their hunting clothes out, and we walked to hunting spots (even with a heavy pack on!), we mostly hunted public land, and stalked closer if the deer was a wee way away, and we could find our way around in the bush without a GPS. They were definitely simpler times and to be frank I miss that a bit. On the flip side gear was heavy, there were stuff all deer about, you saw one tahr for a week long trip and we all suffered hearing loss due to no suppressors.:)

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Originally Posted by Hiawatha

Remember thirty years ago telling an older guy at the range that my 270 was shooting an inch to the right so needed adjusting. He scoffed at me and told me I and the rifle wouldn't shoot straight enough to know that. So I showed the target to him. It grouped .75 MOA consistently which back then was pretty good. He wandered off to bother someone else without apologizing. Only time I ever noticed the recoil on mine was when I used souped up 150gns in it. Ah those were the days, when 270s with a 4x scope were what you used for longer shooting (up to 300m) and everything else was a 308 or 7x57. And people wore their hunting clothes out, and we walked to hunting spots (even with a heavy pack on!), we mostly hunted public land, and stalked closer if the deer was a wee way away, and we could find our way around in the bush without a GPS. They were definitely simpler times and to be frank I miss that a bit. On the flip side gear was heavy, there were stuff all deer about, you saw one tahr for a week long trip and we all suffered hearing loss due to no suppressors.:)

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You can still do all of those things - even fly camp if you want to....harder to find carparks that aren't full now, but nothings stopping you getting off the track and away from others if you set your mind to it....:D

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Originally Posted by Hiawatha

Remember thirty years ago telling an older guy at the range that my 270 was shooting an inch to the right so needed adjusting. He scoffed at me and told me I and the rifle wouldn't shoot straight enough to know that. So I showed the target to him. It grouped .75 MOA consistently which back then was pretty good. He wandered off to bother someone else without apologizing. Only time I ever noticed the recoil on mine was when I used souped up 150gns in it. Ah those were the days, when 270s with a 4x scope were what you used for longer shooting (up to 300m) and everything else was a 308 or 7x57. And people wore their hunting clothes out, and we walked to hunting spots (even with a heavy pack on!), we mostly hunted public land, and stalked closer if the deer was a wee way away, and we could find our way around in the bush without a GPS. They were definitely simpler times and to be frank I miss that a bit. On the flip side gear was heavy, there were stuff all deer about, you saw one tahr for a week long trip and we all suffered hearing loss due to no suppressors.:)

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Bet you walked 40 miles to school in bare feet too huh? ;)

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Originally Posted by Gibo

Bet you walked 40 miles to school in bare feet too huh? ;)

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One of the lucky privileged ones who rode a horse to school...with bare feet of course.

No saddle either huh? :P

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Originally Posted by Mooseman

But a blind squirrel couldn't shoot a 270.

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Yes he could, he'd just need to be really motivated, and also have the world's smallest set of ear protectors.

but you can shoot a blind squirrel in the nuts with a mighty twoseventy,the queen of mountain rifles.....
Ive shot a mouse with mine:pacman::pacman:

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

but you can shoot a blind squirrel in the nuts with a mighty twoseventy,the queen of mountain rifles.....
Ive shot a mouse with mine:pacman::pacman:

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I'm guessing you had to shoot him a second time to finish him off humanely.

Was asked a while ago if a 270 would make a good LR rifle for shooting gongs out to 1500m. Told the guy the rifle was ok but carrying that extra weight was tiring........
When he asked "What extra weight"? I told him that he would need to carry a metal detector and a full set of reloading gear so that after he fired the first shot he would have to walk about 100m downrange, use the metal detector to find the projectile, reload it, shoot again, walk another 100m and keep repeating the exercise until he got close enough to hit the gong.......................

He was not amused....

( I actually own a 270..........bought it in 2010.....never fired a shot from it)

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Originally Posted by Max Headroom

I'm guessing you had to shoot him a second time to finish him off humanely.

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nope but we did roast his arse in the open fire LOL. heck the muzzle blast and concusion wave wouldve knocked it out if projectile had missed...

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Originally Posted by Allgood

Was asked a while ago if a 270 would make a good LR rifle for shooting gongs out to 1500m. Told the guy the rifle was ok but carrying that extra weight was tiring........
When he asked "What extra weight"? I told him that he would need to carry a metal detector and a full set of reloading gear so that after he fired the first shot he would have to walk about 100m downrange, use the metal detector to find the projectile, reload it, shoot again, walk another 100m and keep repeating the exercise until he got close enough to hit the gong.......................

He was not amused....

( I actually own a 270..........bought it in 2010.....never fired a shot from it)

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:thumbsup::D:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by berg243

i suppose no worse than using a 12 gauge at six inch range and i got it too.:thumbsup:

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How could you tell? there'd be no proof left.

had a 270 never had any trouble killing anything i pointed it at, but now im using a suppressed 7mm08 and getting pretty close to the same bullet doing the same speed with a 1/4 of the noise and 1/4 of the boot.
better bullet selection also
there is not really any good reason to buy 270 these days in my opinion.
270 is probably responsible for more flinches then any other round in history, its taken about a thousand rounds for me to rid my self of my own 270 flinch

Many many years ago when i was between 22s and waiting for the Anschutz on order all I had was a 270 for about a year for all my shooting.
Shot a lot of hares and rabbits with it.
Pretty hard on my poor spaniel though.
Pre suppressors
Pre rangefinders
Pre giving a shit about your own ears
Got me started on reloading
For a lefty like me a .270 M700 was the only left hand rifle available

Many people seem to think the 270 is a beast of a rifle to shoot, I really think there are much harder kickers about. The 270 is a fine caliber and is worthy of its fine record as a big game caliber. Won't be long and these debates will be a thing of the past the way things are going.....maybe just maybe we will be aloud an air rifle.

Repeating myself but.. ; .270, 110gr Pro-Hunter, 48gr Imr4064. no more kick than my 6.5x55's. They pass through a 12" lombardi-poplar at 50m and are effective easily out to 300m. No 'can' either , cant bring myself to cut a nice rifle with original open sights.

Love my .270. My Dad & I took all our African animals with our .270’s, none of them ran further than 100 yards, heart/lung shots. Norma 150gr and Fiocchi 130gr factory ammo.

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Was going to make a ngu-joke.. man that one's in good nick !