Thread: 30-30 with a Oceania Defence muzzle brake

After reading @sixtus post....I think I have a solution.....

Pretty much, its accepted by the military now even soldiers shooting with hearing protection may get hearing damage. But I'd be careful posting suggestions like that publicly 308mate, the way things are going our governments might make it mandatory

Originally Posted by 308mate

I know that. My question was how bad it will be with this barrel length/calibre.

short barrels are bad enough on their own, it brings the noise closer to your ear while shooting, add a brake that directs even more back toward the shooter it would make it very unpleasant and down right painful in a range booth

with the weight of the rig running 3030 loads the recoil will be very comfortable without it and even better with the suppressor fitted

how bad? if i have to make up a scale ill give it a 7

plinking or bail loads with a light load of trail boss will be awesome,noise will be ok....but a full blown load would be painfull to say the least. once you bugger your hearing THERE IS NO GOING BACK....ITS STUFFED,people have to shout so you can hear....the Mrs whispers a sweet nothing in your ear,and you cant hear it....look after your ears,you only get two of them.

Originally Posted by 308mate

Hmm after these last comments I think I'll stick with the OD cyclone flash hider for now and shoot it suppressed most of the time @Cigar what's the recoil like on your 16" 30-30?

It has a decent recoil but not bad. I’ve been shooting it since I was 16 and weighed about 60kg and never really noticed it. The recoil is more of a push than a sharp jab, and definitely better than my 308 which is a similar weight.
The loudness of the bark can make the bite seem worse than it really is, I find hearing protection is great at reducing felt recoil

at 20 i had already lost 50% hearing in my left ear. pre employment heath check showed it. bought the first supp shortly after

the ringing is noticeable when things are quiet. thanks to a mate shooting a 7RM muzzle break at high altitude. right beside me, felt like someone putting a knitting needle in my ear

I'm keen to see how this project goes, thinking about doing the same myself.
Will you look at loading subs or just supers?

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I'm keen to see how this project goes, thinking about doing the same myself.
Will you look at loading subs or just supers?

Probably just Supers due to the fact I'll work out a good load worth those Hornady lever evolution projectiles and get the CDS made up for the Leupold scope so I can just dial in the distance on them.

I may look at subs later on but was hoping for a Troy PAR 300blk for that or maybe even a 45'70 like @300_BLK

I've only just got the rifle and bits all together so hopefully take her for a shoot in a few weeks.

Hornady Lever Evolution on the left. Let's you use pointed bullets in tube magazines.

And Sierra 125 in the middle?

Originally Posted by 308mate

Hornady Lever Evolution on the left. Let's you use pointed bullets in tube magazines.

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dont think its fat enough for the 125...they are pretty stubbie. the speer 170grn has always had a huge following in the .30/30 cause it just works.

Originally Posted by 308mate

After reading @sixtus post....I think I have a solution.....

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jeez, i have heard of safe sex but that ridiculous

if it was me ( which it's not ) i would throw the LOUDNER away . . get the mag cut back to the wood ( 3 rounds are plenty ) now the suppressor can come back for better balance

load up some lead bullets to 1600fps . . now you have a well balanced rifle combo that is very pleasant to shoot, not loud with plenty of grunt . . my 2c

good luck

Originally Posted by rossi.45

if it was me ( which it's not ) i would throw the LOUDNER away . . get the mag cut back to the wood ( 3 rounds are plenty ) now the suppressor can come back for better balance

load up some lead bullets to 1600fps . . now you have a well balanced rifle combo that is very pleasant to shoot, not loud with plenty of grunt . . my 2c

good luck

The muzzle device is a QD cyclone brake more like a flash hider so it's not as bad as a normal brake, I'll probably shoot it suppressed mainly. I probably wouldn't shorten the barrel any more than it is to move the suppressor back as 16" is probably as short as I would want 30-30. It feels quite nicely balanced as it is now, he suppressor only weighs 170grams. Will see how it shoots next week. I want this thing to have a reasonable amount of legs for a .3030 so I don't want to cut too much weight off it for recoil reasons. I may thrown a limbsaver on the back and I think that and the Oceania Suppressor will take a bit of the bite out.