30 MOA rings

Does anyone know if 30mm scope rings with 30 MOA elevation built in are available? I have a Savage 110 in .338LM which has a 20 MOA factory rail, but I need a total of 50 so I can adjust from a 200m zero to a 2000m zero. The way I do this currently is with a 20 MOA weaver riser on top of the factory rail, and Burris rings with 10 MOA inserts, but this setup sits very high and I'd rather use more robust rings. Any input is appreciated, I haven't seen any 30 MOA rings, at least not in NZ, I suppose I could see if someone could make a set of one-piece base/rings with 50 MOA that will go straight on a Savage action.
Cheers, Tom

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Originally Posted by tommygun

Does anyone know if 30mm scope rings with 30 MOA elevation built in are available? I have a Savage 110 in .338LM which has a 20 MOA factory rail, but I need a total of 50 so I can adjust from a 200m zero to a 2000m zero. The way I do this currently is with a 20 MOA weaver riser on top of the factory rail, and Burris rings with 10 MOA inserts, but this setup sits very high and I'd rather use more robust rings. Any input is appreciated, I haven't seen any 30 MOA rings, at least not in NZ, I suppose I could see if someone could make a set of one-piece base/rings with 50 MOA that will go straight on a Savage action.
Cheers, Tom

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Might be time for a NF scope.:D

My understanding was that you could buy other inserts for your Zee rings. If you had the zee rings directly mounted on your 110BA with a -15 in front and a +15 at the back you would get the 50 Moa that you are looking for (20 from the 110BA rail and 30 from the rings).

The Burris 30mm rings only have +/- 5 and 10 moa.

You best bet would be to try find a 30moa rail, or get a scope with more elevation.
Most long range set ups rely on the rail for the adjustment, Burris Zee rings are the only commonly used adjustable rings I've heard of.
You can just wedge some Coke can or paper underneath the scope but as you are shooting 338L I don't think that'd be advisable.

Keep in mind also the +5/-5 and +10/-10 are not directly MOAs. What you get will depend upon your ring spacing - closer together more MOAs, further apart (optimum for mounting) less MOAs.

It is a Nightforce =) But I'm not using super fast loads and I need 99 of the 100 MOA adjustment that the scope has, to dial from 200m to 2000m. I think I'll see if a gunsmith can make a 50 MOA rail.

It might be easier to just try find a bit more speed?
How fast you driving the 300s?
At 2800 fps you should only need 92moa so I'm assuming around 2730?
How have you found the 300s preform at that distance doing your speed?




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Yeah, the 300 grain Bergers are doing about 2750, I haven't shot paper targets for groups at long ranges but I've connected with metal ones out to 2000m and I have been very pleased with them. Elevation seems very consistent at these ranges but my ability to read the wind lets me down.

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It is a Nightforce =) But I'm not using super fast loads and I need 99 of the 100 MOA adjustment that the scope has, to dial from 200m to 2000m. I think I'll see if a gunsmith can make a 50 MOA rail.

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I had a std. Rail machined 20 moa,went on a CZ flat top

the inserts come in 5, 10 & 20

cheers R

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the inserts come in 5, 10 & 20

cheers R

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The 1" come in those sizes but 30mm only 5 and 10.

If you want more elevation you can put the -10 in the front ring as well as the +10 in the rear, to get an extra 10moa. But you haven't solved the gruntier ring issue.

The Leupold website lists some of their VX3s having 120ish moa so that could be an option. Or look for another scope with more adjustment.

Get a spuhr mount with 30 moa built in. Expensive but well worth it.

@tommygun have you sorted this out? @Alonzo recently had some custom rails made with 40 odd MOA built into them. Hopefully he can let you know who did them (I can't remember the name).

Also I think Waitaki, or any other decent machinist should be able to make some?

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@tommygun have you sorted this out? @Alonzo recently had some custom rails made with 40 odd MOA built into them. Hopefully he can let you know who did them (I can't remember the name).

Also I think Waitaki, or any other decent machinist should be able to make some?

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You could sell him those rings you have with the self adjusting elevation in them mate.
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You could sell him those rings you have with the self adjusting Cant in them mate.
Real handy feature[emoji13]


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Find your sheep yet mate? Should probably focus on that. ...


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Find your sheep yet mate? Should probably focus on that. ...


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How big is your freezer?


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How big is your freezer?


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Massive! 700l but I recently ran out of room. Why's that? [emoji6]

I think PETA is your best bet, they probably stole them to save them from your unholy acts.

Too soon?

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Massive! 700l but I recently ran out of room. Why's that? [emoji6]

I think PETA is your best bet, they probably stole them to save them from your unholy acts.

Too soon?

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As he wipes away the tears while sharpening his Bahco

Brad's I saw some sheep down the Southern Wairarapa today. I thought they looked like yours but when one old ewe started bragging about a head job it once gave a penguin I was pretty sure it was the old girl Pengy trapped in your father in law's shearing shed chute. You should probably bring a truck down. Ha ha ha ha. Not making light of your plight as I really hope you catch up with them.

I spoke to a local gunsmith and engineer, he reckons he can machine a rail to replace the factory one at just about any angle, but it involves trigonometry, so I'll have to take his word for it =). Would anyone recommend using, say a NF 20 MOA uni-mount and put it on a 30 MOA rail? Or should I have the rail made 50 MOA, and use straight rings like the Weaver Tactical ones? Also, is anyone importing Spuhr mounts at the moment?
Cheers

Barnard in Auckland make and sell blank rails of 40 50 & 60 MOA !!!

40, 50, 60 MOA & Blank Scope Mounting rails now available