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I think you'll find that Chris was talking bigger than 300wm, as was I, talked to dpt about my 300 blaser, it is to big for one of his cans unfortunately as that was my first choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
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The Alloy can made by AI in the UK is rated for their 338LM cal rifle , its all aluminium , BUT mounts over a steel muzzle brake that acts as the 1st 2 baffles when the can is over top of it , I have used it , and its OK , no buggles etc , but have not put much thru the can , talking to guys in the UK/soldiers , they say the can is toast in several hundred rds , ie the internal baffles shot out , not the supprssor tube blown .
A alloy can with out steel blast baffles will wear out even quicker .
BT in europe use steel and SS in their 338LM cans , Canadians use a large TI welded can , anything less will not last very long , I have a ATEC strippable can , its 1st 2 baffles are SS and then aluminium , and even at the 3rd baffle spacing on a 308win cal rifle , its getting gas cut in less than 300rds .
All will wear , BUT some materails much quicker than others , ME I like my stuff to last more than a couple hundred rds , I like thousands of rds before replacement .
You have not heard of "many"? I havnt heard of any... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
I have a 25/06 on a Rem 700 action with a 26.5" fluted No4 barrel in a wooden stock with a Leupold 6.5-20 x 50mm LR scope weighs in at a shade under 10Lb, loaded with Berger 115 VLDs at 3100fps it is still doing 2100fps at 500 metres 1800fps is need to get reliable expansion so this wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by DanS
probably be ok at 600 yds, I have shot a lot of 300WM's they are pigs of things especially in synthetic T3"s the magazine is too short to load 180 grain bullets the barrel is too short should be 26" take a look at the standard Rem 700 BDL if you want a 300WM a better choice would be one in 7mm Mag or get a 280 AI built almost the same ballistics, only sissies use brakes if you can't handle the recoil get a calibre you can and some decent ear protection there is plenty of time to deploy them when sniping deer at over 300 metres if they can't smell you they just stand there,
The DPT suppressor has replaceable baffles so if they do wear, its only. $45 to replace each one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisF
I want to see a suppressor worn out in a couple hundred rounds, not doubting just never seen any photos
Me and my mates bought DPT suppressors because of the LIFETIME WARRANTY and because they are cheap. If the baffles are blasted out in only 200-300 rounds, then i would consider that premature product failure, and would expect the baffles to be replaced under warranty for FREE for my lifetime or as long as i own the suppressor as that is what was advertised. I will not be paying $45 ever time a baffle needs to be replaced, especially if its only a done few hundred rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPT
Baffles worn out in 200 rounds is premature failure and will be replaced as long as the suppressor is cared for as per instructions, if someone is going to put 200 rounds out of a 300 win mag through it in 20minutes then don't be surprised if the baffles don't last so long as the suppressor was not designed for that, if a 10 inch 243 is going to be shot through the suppressor don't expect the baffles to last as long as they should. The baffles have roughly a 2000 round lifespan and are not covered by a lifetime warranty but will be covered if they fail prematurely. They do wear out and this is pointed out in the instructions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaimai Views
If someone does get carried away with the suppressor and does wear out a baffle or two then its quite cheap to replace them, where other suppressors that you cant pull apart have to be fully replaced.
Short barrels (bush pigs), lots of powder (magnums) coupled with plenty of rounds in a short space of time, create heat & lots of it, alloy suppressors really don't appreciate that sort of abuse & won't last as long.
The only way around that is using a harder material in the suppressor & more volume, which usually means bigger & heavier, exactly the opposite what the general market demands...
A suppressor hates high gas pressure, velocity & volume, a brake loves them.
Exactly, I used ot have the steel reflex T8 cans on my .223 and .270.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
They are designed for full automatic use on military weapons.
But I got sick of carrying them around, as they were an overkill on bolt action hunting rifles and went DPT and can't be a happier.
There is a plethora of suppressor manufacturers around the world today.
Materials, constructions methods and quality vary greatly.
Our approach has always been to make solid, long lasting products without the customer having to think of replacing anything.
Also, lot of variables involved ( barrel lengths, loads etc. ) so where we have set limits on something, we have wanted to be on the safe side, as we cannot control what each customer does.
What we have seen somewhat here is that some manufacturers products get heavier from first introduction, whereas we have typically introduced lighter versions of earlier models.
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Tuukka Jokinen
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Ase Utra sound suppressors
I have a Browning X-bolt in 300 Win Mag and went thru the same thought process..... I ended up going with the suppressor (Gunworks Maximus) and it really makes it quiet and tames the barrel jump... it does however coupled with the Z6 swaro ...make the gun a lot heavier ..... I also have a 45-70 with magna porting (which isn't as loud as a break) and it is a quick way to lose friends as it is very loud makes your ears ring for quite some time.
But I think its for hunting the suppressor would be better as doesn't spook animals as muchAttachment 33133
Dam haven't been on here for a while. Shooting long range takes practice, practice on range is where you put more rounds down the tube and have to wait to cool down. Gets old quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
Also shooting tahr etc you can end up with a few shots off quickly. Probably not enough to get suppressor to temps that mirage be too much but up in the cold it doesn't take much for this to happen... Finally the weight of magnum suppressors is excessive for the way I use mine. Would rather carry a pair of earmuffs/plugs
I agree. On magnum rifles especially for long range work fit a brake. You have plenty time to put ear plugs or muffs on usually.
In my experience suppressors only do a half ass job of reducing recoil and muzzle flip on a magnum rifle. Good on 223s and medium calibres though for bush hunting.
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Originally Posted by distant stalker
You wait for the next tahr trip then lol. Big sock on it tm keep the mirage away 😂
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