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    .300 WinMag Break vs Suppressor

    So the decision i'm trying to make is putting a break or a Suppressor on the .300 WinMag ,
    Having a limited knowledge on either was just after some opinions,
    Wanted to shoot anywhere from 10m to 600m with it.
    Also relative cost ?

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    Are you hunting, shooting steel? what's the purpose of it?

    I'd say without knowing what you're using it for one of dean maiseys brakes that turn on/off. When you see an animal at range you'll have time to turn the brake on and if the animal is close it should be off so it wont cream your ears and you won't notice kick anyway cause the animal is close, right

    Even for steel I'd still go with a brake, steel doesn't wander off while you put on proper hearing protection.

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    Sorry should have mentioned that it will be used solely for hunting , cheers for that will give them a search now

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    Im planning on getting a .300wm and it will be suppressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRW87 View Post
    Im planning on getting a .300wm and it will be suppressed.
    Can I ask why ? I was leaning towards Suppressor for the noise reduction but was wondering whether it was really worth it as 9/10 I only have time for one shot and 1 animal is all I can carry anyway.
    Also what brand .300 I was looking at the sendero's for accuracy but the weight is kinda pushing me away from them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanS View Post
    Can I ask why ? I was leaning towards Suppressor for the noise reduction but was wondering whether it was really worth it as 9/10 I only have time for one shot and 1 animal is all I can carry anyway.
    Also what brand .300 I was looking at the sendero's for accuracy but the weight is kinda pushing me away from them

    Cheers
    Well I dont have it yet but from my research it cuts down on recoil and muzzle blast as well as sound which will just make it more pleasant to shoot really.
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    Just suppress it why even bother thinking about an obnoxious muzzle brake as you won't have time to put hearing protection on if you see an animal. Sorry I just hate muzzle brakes I have heard and felt the blast from one of those at a rifle range and it is not nice even with earplugs in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter308 View Post
    Just suppress it why even bother thinking about an obnoxious muzzle brake as you won't have time to put hearing protection on if you see an animal. Sorry I just hate muzzle brakes I have heard and felt the blast from one of those at a rifle range and it is not nice even with earplugs in.
    Cheers, I have never shot a braked rifle and have a suppressor on my .243 at the moment, the only reason I was considering a break was the recoil reduction and the weight to reduce muzzle jump.
    And the cost for this uni student is alot less haha

    So that leads onto the next question, which brand of suppressor, I have heard good things about Hardy but understand a few have been blown off with higher powered rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanS View Post
    Cheers, I have never shot a braked rifle and have a suppressor on my .243 at the moment, the only reason I was considering a break was the recoil reduction and the weight to reduce muzzle jump.
    And the cost for this uni student is alot less haha

    So that leads onto the next question, which brand of suppressor, I have heard good things about Hardy but understand a few have been blown off with higher powered rifles
    Suppressor will also stop muzzle jump the 300 win mag does not boot as hard as what people make them out to be which I found out last weekend when I had a go on one that was running 165grain bullets without suppressor or brake for my first time I actually fired another three rounds just to make sure if what I felt was bugger all.
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    It really comes down to what you want to achieve & how recoil sensitive you are.

    A decent muzzle brake will reduce the 300 win mag down to 243 levels or less depending on projectile weight.

    They are nasty antisocial things at the best of times & hearing protection is mandatory.

    Don't be fooled by all the anecdotal talk of suppressors reducing heaps of recoil it is a myth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHEETEVRMo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJv66bDoSU

    Suppressors reduce noise down to a nearly manageable level but not to a completely "hearing safe" level definitely better than no suppressor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    It really comes down to what you want to achieve & how recoil sensitive you are.

    A decent muzzle brake will reduce the 300 win mag down to 243 levels or less depending on projectile weight.

    They are nasty antisocial things at the best of times & hearing protection is mandatory.

    Don't be fooled by all the anecdotal talk of suppressors reducing heaps of recoil it is a myth.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHEETEVRMo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJv66bDoSU

    Suppressors reduce noise down to a nearly manageable level but not to a completely "hearing safe" level definitely better than no suppressor.
    Interesting test

    Everything I have fired(not much in the mag calibres) has felt like it booted significantly less with a can on. Im sure some of it is purely perception due to less noise and muzzle flip.

    Could it be that if you are getting a similar. recoil force but at a lower velocity maybe? so it lengthens out the recoil cycle and distributes the force across a longer time period?
    It would be interesting to go frame by frame and check the recoil velocity of the supressed rifle vs the non supressed. Im sure some supressors reduce recoil better than others also

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    I have a Browning X-bolt in 300 Win Mag and went thru the same thought process..... I ended up going with the suppressor (Gunworks Maximus) and it really makes it quiet and tames the barrel jump... it does however coupled with the Z6 swaro ...make the gun a lot heavier ..... I also have a 45-70 with magna porting (which isn't as loud as a break) and it is a quick way to lose friends as it is very loud makes your ears ring for quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter308 View Post
    Just suppress it why even bother thinking about an obnoxious muzzle brake as you won't have time to put hearing protection on if you see an animal. Sorry I just hate muzzle brakes I have heard and felt the blast from one of those at a rifle range and it is not nice even with earplugs in.
    What a load of bollocks. Most animals Ive shot at range have not known I was there for possibly HOURS. I could put in plugs, walk off the hill, buy ear muffs to wear over top, walk back, have a brew and then shoot the beast.

    Muzzle brakes are very practical for open tops shooting and can be managed with good plugs. Anti social yes, but I'm sure a deer would consider it the height of good manners if you made it deaf rather than drove a few 100 grains of lead through its shoulders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwijames View Post
    What a load of bollocks. Most animals Ive shot at range have not known I was there for possibly HOURS. I could put in plugs, walk off the hill, buy ear muffs to wear over top, walk back, have a brew and then shoot the beast.

    Muzzle brakes are very practical for open tops shooting and can be managed with good plugs. Anti social yes, but I'm sure a deer would consider it the height of good manners if you made it deaf rather than drove a few 100 grains of lead through its shoulders.
    With all due respects after being a victim of some arrogant inconsiderate prick with a muzzle brake on his rifle as far as I am concerned they are not welcome around me full stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter308 View Post
    With all due respects after being a victim of some arrogant inconsiderate prick with a muzzle brake on his rifle as far as I am concerned they are not welcome around me full stop.
    Try not having your head next to the brake when someone shoots


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