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Hi I’m relatively new to cal have couple questions, first what would be the best weight projectile? It’s an nv gun so inside 400 yards and second I like 17/18” barrel am I better off with 308 and roughly 10 grns less powder and similar speeds? Cheers
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The 06 can give you 100 to 150 fps more in any bullet weight than a 308. If you're serious about 400 yds, I think there's really no advantage to be had with the 06. In either case 165 gr would probably be my choice of bullet weight.
If you want to chop it to 17" go .308 168 eldm
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Buy a 308
165 to 180gn projectiles is where the 30/06 does its best work. for the short barrel forget the 30/06 and go for the 308 IMO. 30/06 would be better served with a 22" barrel.
3006 is 20” at momentQuote:
Originally Posted by zeropak
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168 Berger vld at 2870 out of 21 inch barrel, proven out to 400 ydsAttachment 270679Attachment 270680
I dont know the answer to this but wouldn’t it depend on what sort if animals you are hunting ?
If you’re night shooting, did you choose a larger cart to help them fall on the spot and be easier to find ?
Just wondering if a flat shhooting bullet is better in the dark when ranging is uncertain ?
I’ll be interested to hear the advice of others more knowledgeable.
I’m liking 30 cal at moment for knock down power
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I've had really good results with 178 ELD M, but in a 22 inch barrel. From memory I'm getting around 2750-2800fps
Txt me your load please rich!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich007
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Then txt me Andy[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
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Likewise I'm getting fantastic performance with 178gn ELDM'S 2930fps out of the 24" barrel.....granted I'm Ackley improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich007
I reckon the advantage of case volume with the dirty 06 is best realized with heavier projectiles (if you can mitigate the extra recoil).
But it needs the barrel length to use that advantage, personally I would've shorten it any further or you will just have a long action 308 that needs more powder to achieve similar results....Just my 2 cents (steps back......puts on flame suit)
^^ this, leave it at 20in
What powder are you using to get that Danny ?
DONT tell me how much.
2209....lots of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
if I was into American powders RL22 would probably give slightly more but in reality my 2209 load is plenty and definitely on the warm side but brass life so far seems good.
Around 57/57.5 gns of 2209 will give you low to mid 2800's fps with a 180 in a 22"tube. However i have had some rifles where that load is a bit warm and have to drop back to 56.5. Its a pretty std 06 load. No secret recipe.
@buzzman if you had a 20” 308 and a 20” 30/06 side by side (and loaded to equal pressure) the 30/06 will win the velocity contest every day.
It won’t win an efficiency competition at short lengths, but at the end of the day- burn more powder get higher velocity.
I load 57.5 grains of 2209 with 180's for 2700-2800 fps depending on the rifle. 58.5 grains will get you up over 2800 fps with no issues but I lose accuracy.
I have found 2209 the best powder in the ' 06, but I have often wondered what a curious man could do with a tin of Superperformance...
it goes good, I ran it in my 30-06 Lupo when I had it, behind 178gn Eldm's as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Duxbury
I always find it amazing how much a difference calibre makes in how powders perform.Quote:
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2209 is my favourite for the 270. But I had to double check your figures as It seems way overloaded in comparison too my 54grs for a 130gr projectile. Yep sure enough you are correct and it seems like its pretty much the ultimate combination for that powder.
