They are extremely accurate and rated as the best designed 30 cal magnum, being very powder efficient and having longer neck than the win mag. Around 70-71 grain IMR4831 behind a 180grain will give between 2950- 3000fps. Never had scope or recoil problems with mine. Most recoil problems are due to wrong heel - toe angle at the butt; if the toe pressures more than the heel on your shoulder you will get whacked with almost ant centrefire or shotgun. Hornady make good dies for this cal. NZ Ammo are wholesalers for norma brass.
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