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I’m after some help. I’m unsure about which of these will best suit my needs, will be using these with subs and supers. Will be shooting deer, pigs and goats, most likely get a semi. Ranges will be shooting from close upto maybe 300m.
I’m considering the .300 as I can just get a upper and use the same mags as my .223. Feel free to share thoughts and experiences or even suggestions
most likely get a semi? You have to be trolling, surely.
Just get an upper ! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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There are significant number of people on this site with P endorsement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preacher
6.5 grendel?
No hand loading, hunt full time for work. After something with more knock down and I do urban deer control so subsonic is best in built up areasQuote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
No, not trolling some people have an endorsementQuote:
Originally Posted by Preacher
If you don't hand load then it is the 300BLK subsonic loads for .308 are not readily available unless custom loaded by some one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat ninja
300blk is a great cal, but is no quieter than 308 subsonic
I used a 308 up to getting a 300blk and they are functionally the same with the 308 bieng easier to feed as its long and just more stable
no contest if you have an AR as 308 isnt gunna fit so if thats the platform you want to run
300blk wont really do 300m well as its running out of puff a bit by then
anything starting with a .4 is going to be significantly louder.
Won’t be shooting that far with subs, they are for close range stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
Is 300blk really that much better than a heavy .223? Looking through some ballistics charts it appears similar energy at anything other than close range... maybe the specific cartridges I looked at.....
If you want to shoot to 300 then i’d say the 308
To be fair I had entirely forgot the P endorsement still exists. Apologies
Factory subs for 308 pretty easy to find these days. 308 way more versatile imo.
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And where exactly is 'urban deer control' required in NZ? Asking for a friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat ninja
Wellington region.....so I’ve been toldQuote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
Beware of the overpenetration of the sub loads and the Nasty ricochet behind. I encourage you to practice on a few goats in a more remote area to see the effects of the round and to familiarise yourself with what it can and can't do.
I've just got a subsonic outfit together. I went with 300BLK because of the availability of factory subsonic rounds designed for hunting. Having said that, there is only one option, Hornady Sub-X. Same situation with .308, Winchester Super-X (confusing name!), but nowhere seemed to have these in stock. My setup is primarily for goats at less than 50 metres, so should be adequate. I would also consider 450BM or 45/70. If you reload, then there's no issues with .308. The other thing that I can add is that 300BLK subsonic has undetectable recoil.
It's more common than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
The regional council boys and their sub-contractors regularly blat deer in the cemeteries around Welly. Mostly in the dead of night, using thermal gear.
mostly in dead of night......yip seen what you did there......dead centre of wellington too aye???? LOL
Well there are regular reports of deer coming out in the Hutt Valley, Wainiuomata, some reported up in Newlands. And there's been deer seen on security cameras up around karori.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Just to illustrate my point I shot another two goats with one round today :-)
What rounds where you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
I run a 300BLK i shoot everything with it reds,pigs,chamois and a lot of goat and mostly with subs, only get ricochets on head shots with 208 elds.
1 of a few from yesterday shot with a 151gr HP cast handload
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This with a 168gr Lehigh CF handload at 89m 3pm yesterday, this little 300BLK kills a lot of animals.
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Coffee s getting cold and the sun up better climb out of the tent and get stuck into some more goats.
Tikka, where those headshots?
Right between the eyes,side of head in the ear ,back of skull. All complete pass throughs and you can hear the ping of the bullet off in another direction so I don't do those shots if the dog in too close just do neck or body shots.
Nice hunting rig @tikka, did you put scope on during the day & resight or what ?
I use hornady 190 sub x factory rounds for the moment
@Scout no need to resight, I like using the red dot for the real close stuff or hunting in the cloud and mist using subs The other scope good for both supers and subs, nice to dialup to hit goats on bluffs and across gully’s.