Thread: 308 vs 7mm08 all rounder?

16" is a bit too loud for me, even suppressed, 18" is do-able with a good suppressor and no ear protection as long as its open country. As soon as you're in heavy timber though, look out. Yes velocity is a consideration. I run the 165gr Speers at 2,550fps and am happy with the drops and killing power. I ran the numbers for the shorter barrel and that 50-75fps loss up front counts for a shit load downrange. You start to run into unburnt powder problems if you're not careful, with the 16" and shorter.

Having said that, I was impressed by what some of the guys are doing with short, fast twist .308s, with heavy 200gr+ bullets. For me though, the 180gr ProHunter does the job no problem, proper heavy deer bullet that.

Originally Posted by Hunty1

@stagstalker what was the load details for your eld-x load if you dont mind me asking?

@Hunty1 it was just factory Hornady Precision Hunter ammunition. Was before I reloaded. The rifle is now a 284 superpig. Some days I do miss how simple and accurate it was for a plain jane rifle with factory ammo. (Do bloody love my 284 though).

Hunty1 has a tough decision to make. I bumped into him at the range on Saturday, both rifles shooting very well indeed.

If I was wanting a really a good "all-rounder", I'd keep the 7mm08. Not because 7mm is "better" than .308, just the rifle is in a better configuration for what, as I understand it, Hunty1 is trying to achieve.

@Hunty1 what load was the 7mm08 shooting the other day?

You will always be left wondering what being a full man feels like if you go 708

@Dama dama 7mm08 load was 139 SST with full load of 2208 (unknown velocity), 308 was the 150 BT's with 2206H. Both stupidly accurate!

Im thinking as an all rounder for my needs the 7mm08 wins, main plus's being:

-Significantly quieter than the 16" 308 (gotta be better for me and the dog) Really noticed it at the range at the weekend.
-Easier on the suppressor, full loads of fast powder will be working it pretty hard
-on paper fractionally better ballistics (tho i doubt any difference in the real world)
-can use factory ammo if needs be without really leaving any performance on the table
-I'm a terrible for tinkering.... 7mm barrel opens up options of .284win down the line if someone will re-chamber the tikka barrel....

will give some thought for a few days yet, no need to rush these things eh!

Originally Posted by Gibo

You will always be left wondering what being a full man feels like if you go 708

Haha true gibo! will having a 280 retain any of my manliness? Or do I need a .30cal to feel complete?

Originally Posted by Gibo

You will always be left wondering what being a full man feels like if you go 708

Ouch.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Is that with 140 Berger? Using CFE223 my 18" A7 is 2800fps with them and groups very well so they can perform alright. Ive only ever shot one deer with that combo though, preferring the 120NBT at 3K (for no good reason though). Ive shot deer out to 525 yds with the 120 (did Craig tell you that James shot one at 391 yds with it on Monday night with me - he got 2 with it).

Yup 140gr Berger vld with 48g 2209

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Originally Posted by Gibo

You will always be left wondering what being a full man feels like if you go 708

If it only takes a .308 to give one the feeling of being a full man then I must be in the super hero class.

Originally Posted by DavidGunn

If it only takes a .308 to give one the feeling of being a full man then I must be in the super hero class.

Sounds like you have taken it too far......its a fine line this man stuff

Personally id go with the 20" 7mm-08.

I think the fact that the .308 only has a 16" barrel moves it away from being an-all rounder, and into a slightly more close range/bush gun category.
The 20" 7mm on the other hand could really be considered an all-rounder.

Originally Posted by ChrisW

Personally id go with the 20" 7mm-08.

I think the fact that the .308 only has a 16" barrel moves it away from being an-all rounder, and into a slightly more close range/bush gun category.
The 20" 7mm on the other hand could really be considered an all-rounder.

I dont think you know what you are talking about What is not all round about a rifle that can smoke shit to 500 and be short and light?

Originally Posted by Gibo

I dont think you know what you are talking about What is not all round about a rifle that can smoke shit to 500 and be short and light?

The 20" 7mm will do that, and be slightly better ballistically.
It'l probably be shorter or at least comparable in length to a 16" + suppressor as well.

Personally ill take a couple extra inches of barrel over a suppressor. Sure you could shoot the 16" with no suppressor to equal or better the handyness of the 20" 7mm, but then you are left with something that is brutally loud and still not as efficient ballistically.
Whatever floats your boat. Everything is a trade off.

Originally Posted by DavidGunn

If it only takes a .308 to give one the feeling of being a full man then I must be in the super hero class.

That’s overcompensating for something


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