What visa or classification of residency do you have in regards to immigrating to NZ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Schmo
That will play a part in the importation of your firearms and your firearms license.
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What visa or classification of residency do you have in regards to immigrating to NZ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Schmo
That will play a part in the importation of your firearms and your firearms license.
Because NZ is a great place to bring up kids. Safe with top education. I have lived in many different countries and realize how lucky we are here. Apart from the natural beauty and low population and freedom to hunt all year around for deer, fly fishing that is some of best in the world. Freedom to know that you don't need a firearm for self defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by gonetropo
Great thread for newcomers in NZ. One question (Not terribly off-topic)
"After how long one can start FAL application once in NZ". I tried searching on net but could not find much.
-Inder
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Originally Posted by Inder
How long is a piece of string? It took a colleague who came over from Europe nearly 18 months to get his FAL.
@Joe SchmoQuote:
Originally Posted by Inder
Our corner liquor store was ram raided a few weeks back, the diary same thing a year ago and was boarded up for 6 months waiting for glass, our mailboxs get regularly hit by meth addicts a few times a week, this in a pretty good suburb, things have dramatically changed in last few years, if it hasn't yet come to your part of NZ it is coming unfortunately. A bit off topic but the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Oh, there goes my plans of start training for Olympic trap as soon as I am there. Hopefully UpperHutt shotgun club have some guns which they can lend to people without FAL.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
-Inder
Sadly, same sort of story in my suburb where $1M wouldn't even get you started on the housing ladder.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackson21
You can shoot under supervision of another licensed person, think you can do it in groups anyway, I'm sure they would be able to cater as school kids do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inder
22lr and 12g apear to be almost agreed on. I don't have one but 223 would be usefull for cheapish varment/wallaby/fallow etc then depending on what you want to shoot, 7-08 308 6.5 or even 243 would cover the rest. Any of the magnums for longer range stuff
Ok
I've given everybody a chance Dan but..
So this is what you need
1- Rabbits, Hares, Fallow, Wallaby and closer Pork - 6.5 Grendel
2- Further away Wallaby, Pork, Fallow - 260 Rem
3- Even further away wallaby, Pork, [Fallow have been dealt with] Reds, close Tahr and just about anything on the east South Island. 6.5 x55
4- Thar and Reds that cannot dealt with closely 6.5 06 or 6,5 PRC.
I hope this has helped.
6.5 for life :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
I downsized everything a few years ago and the biggest I own is now 6.5 of a couple of different flavours.
Buttt...................
I have a mild hankering for another .308 , haven’t owned one for years but when I did it was in all honesty a truly versatile and handy caliber.
Why only 4?
Used 12 gauge shotty for various game for 40+ years. 22 same, shot my first two deer with one. 308 since I graduated from 303 in ‘76. 222,223 for goats etc since ‘81. Currently mostly use 223 since shoulder reconstruction but if it came down to it a 308 will always be in the gun safe, followed by one each of the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ground Control
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
Or maybe I'm just following my wife and kids.
There is also 4 weeks annual leave which you are strongly encouraged to take. Pregnant women are looked after and get paid maternity leave once you have NZ permanent residency, childbirth is free. Pharmacy prescriptions are free for young kids and are $5 for adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Schmo
Family life is encouraged all the way. It's not work, work till you're burnt out. If you want to be an entrepreneur, then you'll get help for that too.
@InderQuote:
Originally Posted by Inder
Hi mate, I would suggest joining a club as soon as you get here. They will be able to lend you a gun and sell you ammo. Also as part of the FAL process you will need a referee to vouch for you and there will be loads of candidates at the club.
If your in Palmy check out these guys, they might be a bit closer https://www.rrgc.org.nz/ hopefully their shotgun range will be back up by the time you get here.
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Originally Posted by Sh00ter
Thanks for the pointers @Sh00ter. I do intend to join "Hutt Valley Clay Target Club" as soon as I am there. Pushing my wife to move to Wellington. Better chances for my Job there and Hutt valley club has ISSF trap range.
Along with that NZDA. Lets see If I ever make it there :)
-Inder
I am sorry I cant agree with Jakewire and his 6.5 calibers - some of those are extremely rare in NZ and will need to be handloaded -especially 6.5 Grendell 6.5- 06 6.5 PRC will not be available in country sports stores -given current ammo shortages is one going to be able to get even components at all - no stick to either 7mm Mag or 30-06 , a .223 . a .22 and a shotgun do everything and ammo available all over nz
Have to agree. KISS principle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry the hunter
I haven't shot a factory load in 35 years.
Shoot whatever floats your boat - and 6.5 is awesome for NZ.
There isn't much here that cannot be done by a 120 -160 grain bullet at somewhere between 2600 and 3000 fps
I have a CZ 457 .22, Howa mini 6.5 Grendel, CZ 550 .270 Win. I would complete that with a 12ga anything really. The .22 is a great choice for family wanting to start shooting, Grendel is just a .223 that went to the gym for a bit, but can cover 90+% of most hunting duties. A .308 will do 95%, but I went .270 for extended range, 7-08 much the same, after that you are more of an assassin than a hunter. I don't shoot anything currently with a shotgun, but since this is a 4 gun recommendation, a trusty 12gauge would finish off my list.
Another caliber with a fairly mild recoil is the 7.62x39 in a bolt action.Ok its not amongst the flash harry topshelf stuff but ammo is easily got and used sensibly it will take deer etc inside 200yds.consulting my assorted texts ammo characteristics are not dissimilar to the immortal .303 . recoil(in case of wife and kids)is mild .me i run .303 ,7.62x39 and its bubba sister .223 .22s and assorted 12guages .predominantly duckshooter so my 12g is my longstanding companion of choice.
.308, .22 Hornet, .22 LR, 12 gauge. Sorted.
When I moved to NZ in 2016 from UK I put my rifles and shotguns in my shipping container with the rest of my belongings. Shipping company was cool with it and firearms officer said it was OK. Customs removed them on arrival in Nelson and I collected them from the firearms officer a few weeks later. Easy as, but I’m sure no longer possible, so probably better to sell and buy new here.
To answer the question:
.284 Win for all big critters.
7 RM for all big critters further away.
..22LR for small critters
Shotgun for birds and small critters.
.22LR great for small humans to shoot
20 bore shotgun same.
That said, I had to fill the gaps with a .270 and a .300 WM, just in case. Prolly need a .223 too.
Looking at ammo availability which would be my first consideration these days, .308, .223, .22, 12g.
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Update for what the heck...
I've communicated with NZ Firearms licensing personnel and come to the conclusion that (if'n we move there in 2023) I won't be a legal firearm owner until 2026 or 2027 :TT TT:
I've bought a T3x 223 ad ordered a T3x 308 for use in 2027.
I had an idea, in America we don't even count muzzleloaders as "guns" so I checked NZ laws...turns out NZ counts em as real guns so there goes my master plan to just hunt with a muzzy for 3 years :yuush:
So I'd like to officially request donations of wild game meat until 2027 because I will be turning vegetarian...aka hunting with a bow and arrow :oh noes:
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Joe Schmo
You won't starve if you can fish.
Hey there is a great alternative to the vegetarian thing - go hunting with other guys- he who carries the meat eats the meat! And you can shoot to, you just don't get to put the rifle in your own cabinet for a while!
Plenty of international hunters come here and bring their firearms and hunt. I would check with a 'Safari Park' operator in NZ as to what the latest law is, they will know what you can and cannot do.
Make friends and put the firearms in their care till it’s all legal beagle, they can bring them out and take you hunting with the rule they basically observe and watch you
If you can get a travel gun licence then someone can just handle the safe storage for you
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Maybe someone on the forum could help?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
Thanks folks!! Just an update...we're visiting next month!! Tauranga, Nelson and Christchurch!! Pretty excited about all this. Hopefully I can con some FGNZ/DOC office to give me a chance. Plenty of time to get the gun thing in order...but this hunting season I've relegated myself to only thinking about hunting in NZ and shooting deers solely as a source of meat...that and guiding on 3 wapiti hunts :)
great stuff....get in touch with forum members in whatever part of country you are in at the time..someone will be sure to be able to take you for a wander or just meet up for a beverage or two...
Spoke to a young hunter the other night whilst walking my dogs . Talk got around to hunting. He quietly disclosed he is steadily mowing down all the deer species in NZ with a .22 rifle. All deer so far shot in head. He does not aim any where else. All deer shot under 40m. Only 20 years old. Suppose its better than having a life using meth.