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Originally Posted by Nick-D
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Just purely for the practical side of things. Yes I know 2 inches is only 2 inches, but the amount of times I've cursed a longer rifle while crawling through Kaweka Scrub has convinced my that its worth it. Even if I go down to 18". That way with this calibre I will still be going faster than a 6.5 CM or 6.5x55 with a full length barrel (I have read that you loose approximately 25fps per inch of barrel).....well that's the theory anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
What action did you build it on mate and whats your COAL?Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzman
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co..../index486.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
Looks like 85 "S"
I did see that but thought a SM would have been the go??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
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yip was built on a 308 I'll check coal but feeds mean and plenty room for powderQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
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Haven't read the whole thread, but basically the 6.5 PRC is a repeat of the Creedmoor, just a bigger cartridge.
Whilst it does nothing other cartridges didn't already do (like the Creed), from day dot the designers/manufacturers/marketers knew where in the market they sat and the type of person that was going to buy the rifles.
The 260, 6.5x55, 6.5-284 (less so) and 284win are all examples of great cartridges but all suffered from poor marketing/market placement, lack of factory rifles, lack of suitable ammunition or limiting design features (284 being squished into a short action, 260 initially chamber for light bullets, x55 being held back by light factory loads).
All these short comings have been corrected over the last 30 odd years, but by far the easiest way to get a good, capable long range rifle is to get a Creedmoor or PRC.
The factory rifles have the correct barrel twists for the heavy bullets and all the factory ammo is loaded with projectiles folk actually want to use.
Whilst it is basically just good marketing for both cartridges, there was clearly a void or need for these otherwise they never would've taken off like they have.
I know nothing about the cartridge apart from what I have researched.
If it can do what I think it can, it will be ideal for what I intend to do with it.
I might even go to the chambering for myself if it works out.
Be good to hear more real world experience with it from NZ, but it is still pretty new, especially here.
I know I could get other cartridges to to the same or better but they do not fit the current plans I have, that in all fairness make no sense to anyone but me[emoji16]
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Thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
There is no real point to the prc,. Companies could have chose to simply support an existing cartridge like the 6.5x284 with rifles in appropriate twists and ammunition but they know very well that they will sell far more if its new and shiny and that's fine. I like shiny, playing with new stuff is fun so just do it. Looking for some form of practical justification is at best splitting hairs and about as pointless as the cartridge itself.
Other than Christensen, which companies are actually chambering rifles in 6.5prc?
Sauer at the moment, Howa in the states, and they may be here early next year I'm told. So those two off the top of my head. There may be others, but I'm only concerned with hunting rifles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribrit
+ Browning, bergara, Ruger, Savage, Mauser plus all the semi custom makes in the states like fierce and GAP etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kudu
How many of those make it here who knows
Montana. They also do left hand, look like good shootersQuote:
Originally Posted by Tribrit
The 6.5 PRC is going to be as big or bigger than the 6.5 Creedmoor in bolt action rifles.
There will be more & more factory rifles chambered in it
The Hornady ammo shoots fantastic in the rifles I've built.
Hand loading gets more velocity.
Factory ammo fits in a double stack AI mag, modified AICS mag & std extended SA Rem 700 mag box.
Cheap brass & dies, a simple way to get more grunt out of a 6.5
Looking forward to sticking a 1-7 in front of one in a decent action & pushing 150, 153 & 156's out of it :cool:
I have to admit I have a bit of a crush on 6.5prc atm.....but I dont intend to enter any competitions just shoot a few gongs and a few deer.
With sierra claiming .713 g1 for the 150gr and berger claiming .679 for the 157gr it would be a big step up in wind performance over anything I have owned previously.
Ok ok I'll admit I am slightly biased but I'd just go straight 6.5x284 or for a traditional European approach id be going for a full wood 6.5x55 Mauser action.
I do agree though there's alot of re inventing the wheel of late. Not against new developments or anything but there does come a point when the tried and true just works too ;-)
I wonder why tikka did not jump on the wagon earlier? Is the 6.5 Prc CIP approved ?
They were pretty late adopters of the Creedmoor, so not totally surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
I see the sauer 100 comes in a 8 twist. Will this be ok for those 150s?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
OK I'm convinced, build one for me! Oh, that's right you are already, can I pick it up tomorrow? :D
Yep I'm convinced as well I have a 257 Weatherby a 25.06 and a mod 7 Saum with 7mm and 30 cal barrels that a fast twist 6.5 PRC could replace. Whats the down side, anything?
@nor-west The downside is that I want your M7 7saum just as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
....So that sounds like an upside as opposed to a down side....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I was always leaning on my smaller 6.5s for speed so I guess prc does it easy. I would be equally happy with 6.5-06, 6.5-284 or 6.5saum. Can buy a factory prc for cheaper though.
The downside of putting more powder behind a given barrel dia, is barrel life.
Yeah, not a range rifle for me
All good! Just means you can rebarrel to the next 6.5 smokenboomer cannon someone invents.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisW
Well I reckon a fast twist 6.5 barrel screwed into my existing Weatherby vanguard magnum action would be great longe range hunting rifle, lots of room to seat out those new 150 and 156 grain high BC bullets.
264 Win Mag....Quote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
Still don’t see the point of the PRC
Heard if Tikka are going to do this calibre Chris?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisW
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Originally Posted by 300_BLK
@FRST With your skills Im sure that you would be up for making one...Quote:
Originally Posted by FRST
https://rifleshooter.com/2018/06/cus...6-5-prc-build/
I have not heard, but I have not asked either. I do think it would be good to offer the new PRC cartridges.Quote:
Originally Posted by FRST
I would probably move up to 7mm rather than going that much overboreQuote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
That’s the plan. For the stock at least!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
The reason hornady made the 5.5 prc was to have a 6.5saum type chambering in sammi. So they could sell factory ammo and factory guns. All the hot 6.5's have to many variants to not cause issues.
Sako carbonlight in 6.5PRC would be perfect... In my mind anyway.
Nah mate they are stainless, not Ti :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
Valid point mate [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
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na sounds perfect to me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
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